Topic: HMS Brave Borderer plans (Read 17706 times)

jviewing · « **on:** June 08, 2007, 11:40:17 am »

Hi can anyone help me with plans for the superstructure and fittings for the Vosper Brave Borderer, I have some details already such as photo's from web sites. I am bulding in 1:32 scale

Daryl · « **Reply #1 on:** June 08, 2007, 11:43:22 am »

try John Lambert plans for any drawings or HSl Mouldings for the bits.

Daryl

jviewing · « **Reply #2 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:13:51 pm »

Thanks for the assistance, I will e-mail John, but could not find anything on his web site when I looked before. Any pointers are welcome as this is a scratch build.
Best regards Jeremy

Daryl · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:19:10 pm »

Another idea is the coastal forces veterans association but I have juts read in Navy news that they have disbanded, so I am not sure if you can get any help from them but they did have a good web site. Another good source is the British Military Powerboat Association. www.BMPT.org Ithink the web site is.

Daryl

boatmadman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:50:40 pm »

Hi,

I scratch built a Brave Borderer many years ago, I dont know if I still have the plans, but I will have a look around. There are a couple of pics of it on www.geocities.com/furnessmbc.

I can take some pics for you if you wish, but bear in mind, this was my first scratch build and isnt a particularly good finish.

Ian

cdsc123 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:55:51 pm »

The plans are ref MM609 from Nexus. pm me your e-mail address and I'll send scans if you like.

jviewing · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:36:56 pm »

Hi , thanks that would very helpful, my e-mail is [email protected].
Best regards Jeremy

jviewing · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:46:32 pm »

Hi Ian, thanks, I looked at your model on the Furness site about 12 months ago and it was one of the reasons I decided to model this version rather than the Perkasa. So far I have built the hull and Bofors, the guns use the Mountfield barrells with every thing else in pasticard and brass
Best regards Jeremy

boatmadman · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2007, 05:02:13 pm »

Lets see some pics then!

jviewing · « **Reply #9 on:** June 08, 2007, 05:34:12 pm »

I will take some photos and post them tonight, although its only the hull and guns so far!

jviewing · « **Reply #10 on:** June 08, 2007, 07:55:16 pm »

Well, here's a couple of pic's. Early days yet will post more as things progress.
Bestregards Jeremy

Andy_k · « **Reply #11 on:** August 31, 2007, 12:41:09 pm »

Nice work looks good but I think you have got the prop rudder configuration wrong the Brave Boarderer had the standard rudder behind the prop where as the Perkasa had the rudders between the props just thought you would like to know as it looks like your going for a ture scale version
I have a Perkasa and my next project will be the Boarderer
regards
Andy

jviewing · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2007, 06:01:42 pm »

Hi Andy, yes you are right, I got ahead of myself on the prop and rudders as I thought to build a Perkasa to start with. Then as I got more info on Vosper boats, I had a change of heart. I have moved the props and now have the standard three rudders. This whole exercise started with a Precident kit, but I gave up with that and the hull is now scratch built as the kit does not bare any resemblance to the original.

Jeremy

P.S I got an excellent set of plans from John Lambert today, looks like further mod's are on the cards

Andy_k · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2007, 07:39:05 pm »

cant what to see the finished model

on the plans from John Lambert do you have good condition bulk head sheet?
What are you going to power it with?

jviewing · « **Reply #14 on:** September 04, 2007, 04:39:04 pm »

Hi Andy, I am installing three 650 6-12vdc motors, steering will be single rudder servo with linkages to start with and then maybe a port/centre, starboard/centre mixer if the scale rudders need help! On the other question, John's drawings are copies of the original Vosper prints and do suffer from some reproduction fogging especially on the bulkhead drawing.

Jeremy

Andy_k · « **Reply #15 on:** September 04, 2007, 06:22:29 pm »

Dam! hoped for a minute there that he had got hold of a clearer set of drawings sounds like the same ones I had off him some years ago.
My original plan was to convert the precedent model but it was just to far out as you said so I just built it and played with it as you do but got to say
it doe's go alright :)
heres a couple of action shots

jviewing · « **Reply #16 on:** September 05, 2007, 10:53:45 am »

Andy, it was worth the effort and you managed to make it look good and run well, I only hope mine will, but I am a couple of months away from finishing "its a time thing"

Jeremy

Andy_k · « **Reply #17 on:** September 05, 2007, 06:34:53 pm »

well from what I have seen from the bofors I don't think you will have a problem with the way it looks not sure on the 650 motors are you going to run gel cells or nimh battery's and what version are you going to do? I like the raider version that was going to be my choice of model a little bit different I thought ,you never know I might get round to it one day when time allows

theres it is again the dreaded time it gets us all in the end lol

Ghost in the shell · « **Reply #18 on:** September 05, 2007, 10:51:29 pm »

This originally started as a want for plans, seems to have turned into a build log.

As a result, rather than lock the thread down and issue any warnings, I'm going to move the thread to warship builds, that way more can be gained :)

jviewing · « **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2007, 12:41:54 pm »

Andy, will use Gel batterys, build in gun/torpedo boat role with two 21" torpedo's.

Ghost in the shell · « **Reply #20 on:** September 07, 2007, 01:39:58 pm »

gel cells are ok for short bursts of high power, though their weight will probably mean you wont get on the plane at high speeds, instead just generate a big wake. use ni-cd/ni-mh type batteries in pairs and you will find performance is much better, you can get 4400mah now in sub C I think

Andy_k · « **Reply #21 on:** September 07, 2007, 06:16:44 pm »

you may find that the gel cells too heavy to give you the performance you want a friend of mine was using two 6v 10 ah gels running 12v but when he saw mine running nicads he converted, with the nicads you can save weight and pack more of a punch.with the shape of the hull when its planing it becomes quite economical with run time run time on mine is 30mins easy and the pictures I posted are after 10mins of running at mixed throttle openings and still performing

jviewing · « **Reply #22 on:** September 07, 2007, 08:39:55 pm »

Thanks guys, I will heed your advice, at the moment I have only run the motors via the gel cells.
But I get the point about weight and intend to keep it to a minimum at the bow, the ni-cd/ni-mh type batteries will allow a more even distribution.
Thanks keep the idea's coming Jeremy

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #23 on:** September 07, 2007, 08:51:47 pm »

Lead Acid Gel Cells are always an attractive option for scale models where the motor consumption is well within their capacity but you have to remember that no lead acid cell likes being discharged below 50% so the real capacity is only half of the mominal rating. With NiCads and NMiH cells you can virtually drain them dry which makes them more suitable if you want more performance. As always, it's horses for courses.

Martin13 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 15, 2007, 10:47:17 am »

Jeremy and Andy K,

I think you should re-contact John Lambert. I recieved about a month ago clear as crystal bulkhead and lines plan.
I'm currently building a 1/16 version of BB as true to scale as I can get it. All my plans were supplied by John.

Martin from Down Under

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