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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #300 on: July 22, 2014, 09:08:07 AM »



I just remembered I didnt used this things here
Are these things only for looks or it does make a difference
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #301 on: July 22, 2014, 09:45:21 AM »

They are cosmetic.
They represent "Sacrificial Anodes".
These are not painted and corrode instead of the hull due to electrolytic action of steel in salt water.


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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #302 on: July 22, 2014, 09:58:04 AM »

Thanx bob

In that case I dont really needs it since its a fiberglass
But it seems like everyone one uses them
Ill have to hunt for them
And glue it in place
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #303 on: July 22, 2014, 11:40:51 AM »

I dont know i think those beams are flimsy
And the fiberglass is hard I can actually carry heavy things on the cargo bay

If you put enough weight on the plastic beams to get near them giving way I'm pretty sure the stern of the boat will be well underwater. People have 'trouble' with water washing the rear deck even at normal waterline and since you are planning to sea-sail I don't think you'll be loading it up any.

In that case I dont really needs it since its a fiberglass
But it seems like everyone one uses them

It's a scale model. The real things are zinc anodes on a steel hull. On the model those are indeed just for looks - whitemetal blobs to represent what you'd find on the prototype, as are nearly all the other fittings like the winches, handrails, portholes, etc. You don't have to fit any of them, but it won't look 'real' without at least some.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #304 on: July 22, 2014, 06:18:17 PM »

If you put enough weight on the plastic beams to get near them giving way I'm pretty sure the stern of the boat will be well underwater. People have 'trouble' with water washing the rear deck even at normal waterline and since you are planning to sea-sail I don't think you'll be loading it up any.

It's a scale model. The real things are zinc anodes on a steel hull. On the model those are indeed just for looks - whitemetal blobs to represent what you'd find on the prototype, as are nearly all the other fittings like the winches, handrails, portholes, etc. You don't have to fit any of them, but it won't look 'real' without at least some.

Cool so youre saying I dont need to follow how the aziz  looks
Hmmmmm I think the aziz can be one of those
Alaskan crab vessels hahahha
Just kidding
ill try to copy the aziz as much as I can



heres the fiberglass beam compare to the styrene beam
My beam is wider
Looks better to me than the beams you glue together
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #305 on: July 22, 2014, 08:06:11 PM »

Wider beams means less height underneath for radio gear etc. I hope you've planned for that.  8)
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #306 on: July 22, 2014, 08:25:24 PM »

Actually its the opposite
The fibberglass beams is just wider but  the thickness is less
the fibberglass beams ill use is
about an inch and a half wide
and about 3.5mm thickness
I have more space under those beams
One of the reasons why I wanted to use those beams instead
 Of The beams that comes with the kit is about
1/4?
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #307 on: July 22, 2014, 09:36:17 PM »

Hi
since you are building this boat to go on the sea. I would be a good idea to improve the survivablity of the boat.
 If I was building it I would be looking at making compartments/bulkheads . this would help if water got in .
hatch covers. These need to be very water tight especial on therear deck as water can easly break over the deck.
Weight . I would go LIPO baterys as they are light weight so that means you can put lead sheet at the bottom of the hull.

When a boat sail on a pond if it breaks down it will drift in . On the sea it is very diffrent so you need to factor that in

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #308 on: July 22, 2014, 10:04:59 PM »

Hi john

Ohhh thats a good idea compartments
I think im going to do that
With auto pump on each compartments
I figured if I go that route
I will need 3 compartments
Front middle and back
How to properly sealed the back anyway?
The front is nothing to worry
But the back is so low
Hmmmmm
I think im going to make the hatch cover bolted down with
Rubber in between
And hide the 6 screws with something
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #309 on: July 22, 2014, 10:17:48 PM »

The beach I have in mind to play on
Its called magic island
Man made lagoon on the beach like a swimming pool


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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #310 on: July 22, 2014, 10:26:33 PM »


Cool so youre saying I dont need to follow how the aziz  looks
Hmmmmm I think the aziz can be one of those
Alaskan crab vessels hahahha
Just kidding
ill try to copy the aziz as much as I can
It's your kit - you can make the boat look like anything you want. Mine is going a long ways from the Aziz.
But the basic structure still needs to work with the hull you have.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #311 on: July 22, 2014, 10:30:36 PM »

Oh yep I have those big huge papers
I cut that paper for the cut outs on the hulls
And how to make the boat stand :}
And lots and lots of parts metal casting parts
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #312 on: July 22, 2014, 10:51:27 PM »

Plague

May I see your kit?
Can you post a picture of it here?

Thanx
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #313 on: July 22, 2014, 10:59:08 PM »

Plague

May I see your kit?
Can you post a picture of it here?

Thanx

It's not finished (and is currently on hold due to all the other stuff I'm doing) but you can get the general idea by clicking the link below and then following the 'Models' link.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #314 on: July 22, 2014, 11:16:08 PM »

Whoaw nice
Your work is super clean lol
What is that you put inside the superstructure 4 pix?
What are those
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #315 on: July 23, 2014, 05:27:42 AM »

 >>:-( stupid dremel quit on me
It started to smoke and see amber inside that dsrn motor >>:-(
Cant continue my beams

Need to get a new dremel wtf >:-o
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #316 on: July 24, 2014, 10:31:07 AM »

Whoaw nice
Your work is super clean lol
What is that you put inside the superstructure 4 pix?
What are those


Sorry, I don't quite see what you are asking. Is it about the picture 'Superstructure 4' ?

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #317 on: July 24, 2014, 10:35:08 AM »

Cant continue my beams

Need to get a new dremel wtf >:-o
Don't you have a handsaw?

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #318 on: July 24, 2014, 06:14:11 PM »

Sorry, I don't quite see what you are asking. Is it about the picture 'Superstructure 4' ?


yes what is that thing inside the hull?

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #319 on: July 24, 2014, 06:16:43 PM »

Don't you have a handsaw?

Yes I do have that
Its what I used to continue cutting
but much easier with the dremel
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #320 on: July 24, 2014, 11:49:57 PM »

yes what is that thing inside the hull?

OK. There are two things in that picture. If you go to the Hull & Running Gear section page 3, last picture on that page, Bow Equipment, is a later, better view with more info.
The bit you are probably wondering about is the bilge pump inlet which is covered in more detail under the last picture on page 1, Bilge pumps 1, and the next picture (surprise), Bilge pumps 2.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #321 on: July 24, 2014, 11:58:46 PM »

Cool your also using bilge pumps
how many of those your running?
I think ill use 3 of those pumps front middle and back
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #322 on: July 25, 2014, 01:13:55 PM »

how many of those your running?
Just two - one at each end of the flat bottom area.
I don't have any bulkheads, so I just want to be able to remove water regardless of whether the boat is bow or stern down.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #323 on: July 25, 2014, 07:19:05 PM »

Geeez I like how you build your aziz
It looks great
Mine is crap lol
I think im going to put something like your bars on the hull
I know the bottom of this kit is somewhat weak
I think ill use a ply in there for the battery to sit on

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #324 on: July 26, 2014, 12:25:59 AM »

Im hooked ok obsessed with this hobby

Here's a made to order traditional boat in Philippines
its called bangka
I will install all electronics on this
Itll run on one motor only


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