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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #325 on: July 28, 2014, 10:04:52 AM »

Still working on my deck beams without the dremel its next to impossible



I made a notched on those cross beams
To make it flat
With the kit beams its in a lot of pieces
my beams is just 3 pieces for the back ok maybe 4 and 3 piece for the front
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #326 on: July 28, 2014, 07:46:34 PM »





 :-)) {-)
Its so rigid it looks like im building a tank
Hahahhah
I like how it turns out tho
Now im going to work out for the front
I know a platic is protruding inside that deck am I right on that?
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #327 on: July 28, 2014, 09:51:31 PM »

Hi There.
before you glue the beams in . It might be wise to lose lay the 2 decks on the hull over the beams . make sure the  access hole are cut out of the deck. Then you can judge an access issues there might be. Planning is key to making a good and easy to use model boat


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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #328 on: July 28, 2014, 10:07:55 PM »

Hi john

Those beams are positioned
as it says on the instructions
I also fitted the deck on top of that beams
And its all aligned really well

Next is to do is the superstructure beams
Itll be similar to the back deck
im not going to glue it yet
Im thinking of a way to make that beams decks removable
but it seems like thats impossible to do
Since the deck edges  will be completely sealed  to the bulwark
by the way still need to make a modification near the rudder nipple
need to make a notches for easier acces to that place


That deck is so rigid ill sank this boat before anythjng happen to those beams hahah

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #329 on: July 30, 2014, 05:15:16 AM »

I have received my wheel collets   :D  :o


thank you dave  :-))
Now my rudder can be removable like the other aziz build
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #330 on: July 30, 2014, 07:54:57 AM »

Final assembly of the beams
That white styrene will also be a fiberglass



the easiest way I can think of for the electronics
is to make a slider like a drawer
Need to repair somethjng pull it out
When done just slide it back under the midsection beams
If you pull it out itll be above the motors
Easy access :-))
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #331 on: July 30, 2014, 08:49:07 AM »

Just a thought about the slider idea for the electrics just remember about the wire size and the effect it will have it on the slider arrangement. I am building Fairmount Alpine useing Action wireing diagram the only thing is I am no fitting working winch.There is a lot of wire even useing silicone type it still puts a fair bit of pressure on the components so they have to be well fixed down . I made blocks of wood the same size as the batteries and put them in the hull so I could see what space was left ,that's because I have no batteries yet.
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #332 on: July 30, 2014, 10:04:24 AM »

Hi david

Thats a good idea about the wood block acting like a battery
I think ill do the same make the same size of the battery
I  also dont have battery yet
I need to get the measurement of the battery tho
I wonder if napa auto parts would let me take the measurement of their 12v battery
We also have a battery builder in hawaii
Im thinking of asking them to make a flat acid battery  if they can
Lay it flat on the hull
I really like your idea about the dummy. Battery
Ill try to get the measurement tomorrow :-))
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #333 on: August 03, 2014, 10:25:43 AM »

Would an 8 pounds sla battery to heavy for the aziz?
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #334 on: August 03, 2014, 11:04:31 AM »


I used a  7 Ahr and it balanced fine.

With the extra fittings you are using it might be a good idea to try a ballast test in the bath first to see how much weight you get away with.

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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #335 on: August 03, 2014, 11:36:24 AM »

I used 2 x 12V 7Ah batteries mounted vertically put in through forward hatch and slid to aft to get even keel trim. It brought her to her marks without being too stiff. See my build blog through link below.
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #336 on: August 03, 2014, 04:32:56 PM »

Hello Seatug

As it is said higher; it is your boat and you make what you want

But do not call him any more AZIZ, call the MASSACRE.

You are massacring a kit which is a magnificent kit (originally) <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(

You do not have the assembly instructions ?

 Want you that I send this note at your home ?
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #337 on: August 03, 2014, 06:12:21 PM »

 {-) lol gazou
No worries this will work out just fine youll see
I only changed those beams
I didnt like the part gluing those styrenes


Thanx guys
 ill try to ballast it first to see how much weight I can add on after all the beams d3ck electronics is on the boat
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #338 on: August 05, 2014, 05:48:16 AM »

Ok I load up my aziz
Errrr massacre  {-)
With this 2x4s and my tool box



with this water level is perfect
Now all I need to do is get the weight of these
but I encountered another problem

I weight my self to see if it works
Im so heavy I drained the battery  {-)
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #339 on: August 05, 2014, 08:45:22 AM »

Yes you are right: empty the battery it will be less heavy :-))
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #340 on: August 06, 2014, 01:32:14 AM »



Ok total weight of this things here is 17 pounds
Perfect line with the water

Now I compared this to the total weight of the
Styrenes sheets, fittings, motors, and electronics
Including box and all of the fittings( not including props motor mounts bow thruster motor?
Weight is 8 pounds

I think I can get away with the 8pounds battery
But just incase itll be to heavy im pretty sure there's a lighter batter I can use around (I HOPE)

Now I can go ahead and install my beams
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #341 on: August 06, 2014, 04:55:31 AM »

If not ill sacrifice for a shorter run time and just get a 12v 7ah or something anything lighter than 8pounds battery
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #342 on: August 07, 2014, 08:50:53 PM »

And encounter another set back with my  build
My t88 glue doesnt stick to styrene
Once it gets wet itll peel off
No matter how rough sanding I do still peels off
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #343 on: August 11, 2014, 03:26:13 AM »

I found a styrene glue
But  what glue to use on styrenes to fiberglass?  {:-{
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #344 on: August 11, 2014, 08:32:56 AM »

From Aziz Instruction Manual - Page 1:
Glues
Glass fibre Plastic                  2-part epoxy or thick superglue
Glass fibre Metal                    2-part epoxy or thick superglue
Plastic- Plastic                          Liquid polystyrene adhesive (e.g. Revel Contacta Professional or Humbrol Liquid Polystyrene)

Whitemetal Whitemetal            2-part epoxy or thick superglue

Wood Plastic                         2-part epoxy or thick superglue

Whitemetal Plastic                  2-part epoxy or thick superglue

Window glazing                         RC Modellers Craft Glue, Weldbond, Clear contact adhesive

Brass Plastic                          RC Modellers Glue, Weldbond or thick superglue


No offence intended, but it can be tedious just referring you to the instructions. Please have a look at them before you post questions; the answers may well be available to you already.
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #345 on: August 11, 2014, 08:54:29 PM »

Hi dave

No you cant offend me
I totally forgot about the instructions
I know I have seen those instructions on what glue to use
Its just that its so frustrating not to be able to find those glues on this island
I have to look online again for those damn glues to order (sigh)
Like I said before this island suck


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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #346 on: August 11, 2014, 11:21:01 PM »

I would like to try living in Hawaii and not finding Rocket Glue before I can compare it with the UK and being able to buy any damn glue you can name.
I have a list of things which might just be better where you are.
I guess the grass is always greener?
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #347 on: August 12, 2014, 01:36:49 AM »

Well yeah maybe
Im begining to think I bite morethan I could chew on this aziz build
Im really getting frustrated not finding all the things I needed here on this island

Ill be using 3m marine glue for the deck to the beams
But for superstructure ill needed the two part epoxy
still looking around here
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #349 on: August 12, 2014, 09:13:20 AM »



You must surely have a Walmart, they stock everything you could possibly want. Failing that a builders merchant will have various epoxies and a boat chandlers of which you do have hundreds! will have marine specific epoxies for boat repairs.
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