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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2014, 11:30:24 AM »

Wow thqnx a lot colin :)
That sure is a big help to me
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2014, 11:57:42 AM »

Thank Colin , you beat me to it !   The links will be a help to us all. Cheers.  Seathug you have a PM.
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2014, 07:38:51 PM »

Hi arrow replied to email :)


Update
I have finally found a good glue to use
Fiberglass hawaii :)

they use this glue on surf boards canoe etc
Waterproof and hard as hell when its dry
Best glue I have used so far

My jigs




it would of worked perfectly fine if I my holes were perfect
Ita hard to drill perfect holes without that pressed drill thingy
I need to make a jig for my drill to get straight hole






according to the plan
That nipple for the rudder is just sits on top the fiberglass and glue it in place

Was thinking wouldn't it be better if that nipple perpetrated the fiberglass?

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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2014, 11:10:33 PM »

seathug asks....."was thinking wouldn't it be better if that nipple perpetrated the fiberglass?"

1. yes it would be best to roughen the internal surface of the fiberglass
2. file the base contour of the nipple to match the rise of the hull
3. get a 20 cent sized o-ring an place them over the shafts & nipples & secure with a few drops of Superglue
4. the o-rings act as a void for the epoxy resin to fill
5. this provides a greater height of epoxy resin bond strength to the nipple and also looks much tidier than epoxy resin that has oozed away
6. you can also do the same where the A frame arms enter the hull  but with 10 cent sized o-rings
7. again far superior strength & tidiness
8. the O-rings can be removed after the epoxy has cured

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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2014, 11:20:57 PM »

Hi derek

I meant ill bury some part of that niple through that fiberglass
 Like this



im thinking theres a tendency that the rudder will scratch the bottom of the fiberglass?

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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2014, 11:34:54 PM »

seathug.......I suppose there are 100 ways to skin a cat.....

1. what are the nipples cast from?
2. the shaft for the rudders is the element rotating
3. what stops water migrating up the shafts?
4. adding a brass close fitting washer to the top of the nipple?
5. how are the rudder blades secured to the rudder shafts?

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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2014, 11:52:41 PM »

Lol derek

Honestly I have no idea
How to prevent the water from going up that niple
Maybe a grease?
Ok so my plan is a no no
That niple sit on top the fiberglass glass
What prevent the rudder from going up and scratch the fiberglass?
Is there a washer of somekind betweek the rudder and the fiberglass?
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #83 on: May 29, 2014, 01:39:38 AM »

Just a few options.... a picture says a thousand words  O0

1. the hull has a flat bottomed hole with axis parallel to the rudder post
2. a close fitting brass washer is soldered on axis to the rudder post...the OD of the washer is a tight clearance eon the flat bottomed hole
3. an o-ring cavity is drilled in the base of the nipple [on axis to the rudder shaft]
4. a o-ring & waterproof grease is smeared on the rudder shaft
5. a Dubro locking collar locks all components so they cannot fall or rise to damage the underside of the hull

Option 6.......

6. you could always increase the thickness of the hull by epoxy resining a fibreglass pad to the inside of the hull...[say 40 mm square x 10 mm high]
7. this would then allow a deeper flat bottomed hole to be drilled & then the this would allow the rudder post o-ring to be installed from outside the hull & hence a replaceable item %)

Option 8 ......

8. drill the cavity for the rudder shaft o-ring from the top....this wold the be pressure energised by the Dubro locking collar and again is replaceable  ;)
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #84 on: May 29, 2014, 05:55:40 AM »

None of those o ring came with the kit I guess those are optional?
How about packing that niple with grease
Will it be enough to stop the water from getting up that nipple?
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #85 on: May 29, 2014, 06:36:00 AM »

 %)  why not go back to the kit manufacturer & ask for their advice on resolving your question  O0 ....Derek
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #86 on: May 29, 2014, 06:51:07 AM »

Good idea might be missing something like a seal  lol
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2014, 04:44:19 PM »

Hi martin

Thanx for the links
Now I can just copy that :)
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2014, 07:36:02 PM »

 :} awrite bow thruster has arrived




ill glue those things together

now I need to make a hole for it


my jig for the bow thruster





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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #90 on: June 03, 2014, 07:09:03 AM »

I have encountered another problem



im thinking you screw in the props to the drive shaft
My problem is that the hole for the props are to big for the threads on the driveshaft
Is there an extention of some sort?
Or they sent me the wrong props?
The size of that props is 50mm
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #91 on: June 03, 2014, 08:39:10 AM »

.......  ;D why not go back to the kit manufacturer & ask for their advice on resolving your question  O0 ....Derek
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2014, 08:44:13 AM »

I did asked them I sent them an email
No response from them yet
I figured someone  could help a newbie like me in here
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2014, 08:47:40 AM »

Yes, the prop should just screw on to the shaft.  You shouldn't need any extension or adapter.  Did you buy them both from Harbor Models?  If so, give them a call/e-mail and tell them your problem.  I am sure they will sort things out. 

If you bought the prop and the shaft separately from other suppliers, you might need to accept that you have to sort things yourself.  Do you know the size of thread on the shaft and the prop?  If you ordered parts with the same thread then someone has sent you the wrong part.

Good luck

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« Reply #94 on: June 03, 2014, 08:53:01 AM »

Hi Seathug
It looks like they have given you the wrong prop/shaft combination.  Props and shafts are supplied with various size threads and when replacing either you have to specify which size you require, if you look at any suppliers website you will see they are listed as M3, M4, M5 etc. which denotes the thread size.
With any luck when the manufacturers get back to you they will be able to correct the problem.
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #95 on: June 03, 2014, 08:55:31 AM »

Looks like the wrong props to me.
You need kort props for max efficiency.
If the shafts are M4 thread, then a pair of
M4 Kort props are what you need.
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #96 on: June 03, 2014, 09:38:24 AM »

 
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Re: Aziz - Hawaii build
« Reply #97 on: June 03, 2014, 11:06:43 AM »

In HAWAII you have guys who maintain yachts
These guys have cartridges of glue to repair and fix the windows of boats
You can stick everything on everything, and that reflects.
 I make  eight kits MODEL SLIPWAY, I stuck all my decks with this glue and I have never had problem, I also stuck of the PVC on the hull with no problem at all.
It is good for the big solid and tight collages(stickings).
That catches up the space.
You put it generously and you cut what exceeds with a cutter when it is dry
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Re: newbie from hawaii
« Reply #98 on: June 03, 2014, 07:32:45 PM »

Yes, the prop should just screw on to the shaft.  You shouldn't need any extension or adapter.  Did you buy them both from Harbor Models?  If so, give them a call/e-mail and tell them your problem.  I am sure they will sort things out. 

If you bought the prop and the shaft separately from other suppliers, you might need to accept that you have to sort things yourself.  Do you know the size of thread on the shaft and the prop?  If you ordered parts with the same thread then someone has sent you the wrong part.

Good luck

Greg

Hi greg Thanx for your reply
I think they made a mistake with the props
I buy everything from harbormodels since they are the closest to hawaii
Ang everytime I ordered from harbormodels (nick)
I make sure to let him know its for my aziz kit I bought from him
Im pretty sure I can change it with him tho his a nice guy to deal with


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« Reply #99 on: June 03, 2014, 07:35:09 PM »

Hi Seathug
It looks like they have given you the wrong prop/shaft combination.  Props and shafts are supplied with various size threads and when replacing either you have to specify which size you require, if you look at any suppliers website you will see they are listed as M3, M4, M5 etc. which denotes the thread size.
With any luck when the manufacturers get back to you they will be able to correct the problem.
Graham

Hi boatcrew

Yes it is the wrong props
They sent me an m5 props
If im not mistaken I need the m4 props
So far he didnt email me back yet
Maybe their busy  I might just give em a call later
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