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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2014, 10:28:47 AM »

..... and I so wish I'd never posted this thing about "Rudders and Bowden Cables" in the first place .

Worms .... can.   O0
 
.. Give the twin cable system a try and if it does "bind" then I'll just take the second inner cable out, and run it with "one" which is what I'd planned (right or wrong) in the first place.

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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2014, 12:21:11 PM »

Peter
Other subjects to avoid include the best type of radio to buy, what type of batteries to use, whether or not to fit suppressors to the motor and the best method of finishing the model. Ask ten different Mayhemmers about any of these and you'll get eleven different answers.
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2014, 12:55:51 PM »

Peter
Other subjects to avoid include the best type of radio to buy, what type of batteries to use, whether or not to fit suppressors to the motor and the best method of finishing the model. Ask ten different Mayhemmers about any of these and you'll get eleven different answers.
Suit yourself.
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I already covered the "Battery" question.....and surprisingly it was quite objective and settled fairly easily......... The others, after this ???? Not a chance Dave....I'll keep it to myself.  {-)
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2014, 01:17:52 PM »

Now, about the position of the motor and type of universal joint . . . . . . . . . . {-)
 
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2014, 01:23:08 PM »

NO NO NO you all have it wrong
 
the worst question on this Forum is
 
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hey Mr where do I fit the fuse?
 
how dare you ask that question :-)  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
 
Peter, I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread and laughing - remember when someone said to you - there is no right way and no wrong way.
 
especially in model boating etc., the way it works is the way that is right for you.  :-)) :-)) :-))
 
aye
 
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2014, 02:05:15 PM »

How come if a single push/pull Bowden cables is so good they are not used on bike braking systems to save the weight of the return spring on the caliper. ;) Graham
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2014, 02:08:33 PM »

How come if a single push/pull Bowden cables is so good they are not used on bike braking systems to save the weight of the return spring on the caliper. ;) Graham

.....You would need a push/pull lever on the handlebars........ Which would be pretty cumbersome.
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2014, 05:14:36 PM »

I must admit to having a little chuckle on this thread.
But I prefer double connections for wire connections too!!!
Just a belt and braces thing for an important pare of the system.


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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2014, 07:02:41 PM »

And as a warning, the good ole British motorcycle industry used to have a single Bowden cable connecting the twist grip to the carburettor slide on the engine so that when you twisted the handlebar grip back towards you, the bike accelerated and by allowing the grip to twist the other way, assisted by a return spring, the revs and the bike slowed down. As any proper motorcyclist will tell you, in their infinite wisdom, the Japanese really screwed things up by putting the kickstart (?) and the brake pedals on the wrong side of the bike for us imperialists and as a belt and braces, on one machine, besides a return spring on the shaft that coupled twin carbs, they had added another cable to the mix that together with the spring pulled the carb slide shut via a pulley. Velly clever these Orientals, so when out one day, miles from home, the cable  that opens the throttle breaks. Oh, woe, no tools, (don't need those cos these bikes don't go wrong). Quick think, return spring still works and with a bit of fiddling, the remaining cable can be fed round opposite side of pulley and wahoo, we have twist operated throttle and spring return.
 
   Only difference is that to accelerate, you need to turn the twist grip away from you and towards you to slow down.
 
     This is not intuitive and created some exciting moments in teatime traffic.  O0
 
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2014, 07:36:35 PM »

Hello Faddah! Hello Muddah!
Will you show me
How to fix my ruddah?
Should I use a
Bowden cable
Or just bend a bit of wire upon the table?

It is really, very vexing
To work out the
Degree of flexing
Is it best to make it double?
Or will that really get me into serious trouble?

I have asked the blokes on Mayhem
Should I epoxy
Or just fray ‘em
But they all give different answers
And I really just cannot fancy my chances.

Well here’s my servo, and my tiller
The connection is a killer!
For the one to
Move the other
It really is a total awkward b****r
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2014, 07:39:33 PM »

Heavens above we got a POET in our midst ..... O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 :} :} :} :}
 
 
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2014, 09:23:24 PM »

Hello Faddah! Hello Muddah!
Will you show me
How to fix my ruddah?
Should I use a
Bowden cable
Or just bend a bit of wire upon the table?

It is really, very vexing
To work out the
Degree of flexing
Is it best to make it double?
Or will that really get me into serious trouble?

I have asked the blokes on Mayhem
Should I epoxy
Or just fray ‘em
But they all give different answers
And I really just cannot fancy my chances.

Well here’s my servo, and my tiller
The connection is a killer!
For the one to
Move the other
It really is a total awkward b****r

...... A rare talent indeed  {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2014, 09:46:48 PM »

Both cable outers .........
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2014, 01:24:16 AM »

 %)...Peter...a simple question........is the area I have marked up reside under the engine skylight that sits on the deck?........Derek
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2014, 03:36:53 AM »

Hello Faddah! Hello Muddah!
Will you show me
How to fix my ruddah?
Should I use a
Bowden cable
Or just bend a bit of wire upon the table?

It is really, very vexing
To work out the
Degree of flexing
Is it best to make it double?
Or will that really get me into serious trouble?

I have asked the blokes on Mayhem
Should I epoxy
Or just fray ‘em
But they all give different answers
And I really just cannot fancy my chances.

Well here’s my servo, and my tiller
The connection is a killer!
For the one to
Move the other
It really is a total awkward b****r


Allan Sherman reincarnated {-)  Very good, Colin :-))


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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2014, 11:15:27 AM »

%) ...Peter...a simple question........is the area I have marked up reside under the engine skylight that sits on the deck?........Derek

It's a bit aft of where you marked (it'll be covered with a small grating)........ It is designed for access to the grub screw on the retaining collar for the propshaft.
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Re: Rudders and Bowden cables????
« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2014, 11:51:01 AM »

%) ...Peter...a simple question........is the area I have marked up reside under the engine skylight that sits on the deck?........Derek

Derek .......... A rough sketch to show an approximation and location of deck access openings.
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