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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2014, 12:57:57 AM »

I reckon they will find the Plane / wreckage by Monday.. 8)

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2014, 01:59:32 AM »

I would have thought the Satellite "ping" would have offered more information.
Perhaps, as reported, the Airline did not subscribe to the service, but the computers
would still be sending that data to the system. The ADS-B system implies that a lot
of info regarding the planes location, and status may have been recorded.

'Fraid not. The system was only sending a 'keep alive' signal, rather than transmitting a full information stream as it had been disabled. Malaysia won't have known anything about it, because they would only receive the full stream and not the keep alive pings. The only reason we know about these pings at all is because Inmarsat have trawled through their satellites' data logs and manually picked them out.

There's a rough position coordinate and altitude, but these aren't accurate as it's where the satellite 'thinks' the signal came from.

F4TCT:
There is a way to evade primary radar detection - it's called shadowing and basically involves sticking yourself like glue to another aircraft. But it's very hard to do and you could easily be spotted by that aircraft, but there will then only be one contact on the ATC's radar.

There are 4 runways in the region which are uninhabited and could have accommodated a 777, but they have been checked. The AFB you refer to has stated they haven't got it and this has been verified.

The Chinese photographs could definitely be a lot clearer, but as it's a military satellite and they don't want people knowing how good their optics are, it's been deliberately blurred. They must've been pretty confident, but they've definitely tried to backtrack with the mistake story.

Phones continuing to ring are caused by pecularities in international telephony and should be discounted.

Hope this clears a few things up.
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2014, 04:31:51 AM »

The end of the world is going to arrive (once again).
The passengers ( 11 nationalities) were chosen.
It will be the chosen people.

This plane is the plane of Noê.

He(It) is somewhere, in an underground passage, shielded from the radiations .

Neil did not want to leave because there was no cheese Roquefort in the food reserve   {-)
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2014, 06:30:46 AM »

Current media is reporting the aircraft as "officially" hijacked.

It is interesting to note that there is an expectation for it to be put to ground at
an airport. The hijackers may have taken great care to bring it off the grid and to
a new course, but they may not care how the plane comes back to ground.
To them a crash landing in jungle, or the ocean may be as good an option as
holding any passengers hostage. As no credible claims of action, or demands have
been made, it is a very disturbing type of intimidation that has been introduced.

People can cope with the loss of friends and family, when the loss can be resolved, and
some sort of requiem can be made. However to lose someone and perhaps never know
what happened, will be forever hard on the families.
 If this aircraft was intentionally "disappeared", that one question may never be answered, "Why?"

 {:-{

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2014, 07:12:26 AM »

The Malaysian PM in a live interview Australian Eastern Standard time 10 minutes ago acknowledged.......

The MH370 aircrafts computerised reporting systems had been intentionally turned off [by persons unknown] prior to the aircraft leaving Malaysian air space ..........Derek
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2014, 10:51:27 AM »

sorry circlip  my mistake did not read message right    regiment
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2014, 12:23:01 PM »

Now further "Clues" have been given, perhaps the searchers will be looking in the right areas?
 
  Interesting how the Malaysian officials have had a total clamp on media releases, when in recent times of conflict, the world media hasn't had the courtesy to allow the nearest and dearest to be informed before splashing it across the airwaves.
 
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2014, 01:30:21 PM »

Plane has been "hijacked" by the CIA with the complicity of the pilot, who will get Witness Protection in California, and a commission in the Confederate Air Force and be able to spend his days flying vintage aircraft. Plane was shadowed into Diego Garcia by a passing B-52 on a "navigation training" flight and passengers are being held incommunicado in the plane - runway has been mocked up with "Bankok Airport" signs and they have been told the stop is for emergency work on the engines. They cannot disembark because of immigration restrictions. Some passengers have been taken off for "health " reasons and are by now in Gitmo where certain gentlemen wish to speak with them. CIA now working on problem of feeding passengers back into circulation. Any better ideas?
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2014, 01:56:58 PM »

Sounds about right..

All I can say is somebody knows something but just not saying for what ever reason..If the military knew a plane had deviated from its course and it was no longer registering an ID and did nothing about it !!  something is not right..

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2014, 02:38:52 PM »

The truth - if it ever comes out - will have been clouded by the fact that several countries' militarys are involved. I strongly suspect that all of them know more than they are saying for fear of revealing the scope and range of their own surveillance hardware. Look how fast the Chinese backed off when they realised that maybe they weren't supposed to have the capability of identifying wreckage from that distance.
These are murky waters in all sorts of ways.
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2014, 05:05:29 PM »

Last one news

Boeing knows where is the plane, engines passed on(transmitted) all the information
Boeing wanted to know if the plane was responsible;
He is not!
Boeing is going to give the information.
In the case or Boeing was responsible it would have had no information there
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2014, 05:43:25 PM »

if it wasn't so serious it would be funny , my initial comment on this about the need for a system to automatically send location/altitude/course/speed that cannot be disconnected by the crew has been covered on the news and the reason for NOT having it fitted is cost. The airlines are claiming that the satellite costs would be too high , however , most airlines are now offering wifi and telephone services aboard which use satellites so all they have to do is piggy back on a data packet once a minute at no cost to the airline ( you can get fixed cost satellite comms deals for fishing boats that give full broadband internet & telephone for £1,000 per month which would be absolutely small change for an airline )
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2014, 06:47:43 PM »

Its another alien abduction. They have proved they can do it in the past, look at all the planes 'missing' in the Bermuda Triangle. There is a similar triangle in that area of the world as well.

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2014, 06:50:05 PM »

Hijacked
Taken 'off grid'
Crashed a long way off track (accidentally or deliberately)

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 07:02:22 PM »

Friendly fire incident ? I mean why is the CIA involved  %) all Chinese specialists - what company was it that may mean a possible taking out  8)
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2014, 07:33:06 PM »

This is worth a watch for the conspiracy theorists...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c


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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2014, 09:06:32 PM »

 
A diffferent slant on things.
 
Don't forget, that in all of this the powers to be, will be very reluctant to reveal every bit of "pertinent" information that could aid and abet.
 
For example, why let a hijacker/terrorist know, when and how you knew, they immediately took control of your aircraft. They will then change how to do it next time. Or why reveal what checks you have in place to identify passengers travelling with false documents. After all don't the James Bonds travel with false documents.
 
Isn't the name of the game to find the aircraft? how it is done is not important.
 
Also why would other nations, eg China, reveal their unknown military capabilities, except to steer searchers to the right area. The Chinese have Nationals on board.
 
The lessons learned here will be adopted by the Arms manufacturers, this is a real time event and test of current equipment and technologies.
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2014, 09:12:51 PM »

Strange though itsnt it. you know for a fact you have nerds and anoraks (no offense) sitting there watching flight radar all day long or all night long. they are the ones who notice subtle changes, such as the video i have shown.


Ive always believe 9/11 was an inside job...


although i believe they landed on the moon.


Torn between the two on this one, although couldn't care less aslong as there has been no lives lost.
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2014, 10:51:03 PM »

Just the fact that you can gain access to the cockpit area is totally irresponsible in my view it should have a lock down mode
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2014, 11:43:16 PM »

Just the fact that you can gain access to the cockpit area is totally irresponsible in my view it should have a lock down mode
John
Not a lot of use if the guy is inside the cockpit to begin with. Wasn't there an Ethiopian airliner "hijacked" by its co-pilot just last month?
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2014, 12:03:01 AM »

Correct.
 
Is not the concern, that "terrorism" will be from home grown, that is from within and therefore harder to detect if at all possible.
 
Reports here are that the chief pilots home has been raided by the authorities???????????
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2014, 12:14:12 AM »

Attention of the US Intelligence services (according to CNN anyway) is shifting towards the crew, yes. They've done searches of the houses but nothing has been revealed yet (we already knew the pilot had a simulator setup though).

The cockpit door is always locked these days, and reinforced if I remember correctly, specifically to make it hard to enter the cockpit by force.
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2014, 04:06:29 AM »

But the co-pilot let a couple of pretty girls in last year.    >:-o
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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2014, 05:30:07 AM »

Strange though itsnt it. you know for a fact you have nerds and anoraks (no offense) sitting there watching flight radar all day long or all night long. they are the ones who notice subtle changes, such as the video i have shown.
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Actually, there is a play back option on that Flight24 website.
You can select the day, and run the flights you are interested in.
I imagine that that is what the video poster was watching, and why
he saw a change in the data.  Could be lag ... but he has his beliefs.

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Re: Missing Flight MH370
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2014, 07:43:53 AM »

New hypothesis

Microscopic cracks of the fuselage would have caused (provoked) a slow depressurization.
It would have caused (provoked) a slow lack of oxygen of the crew
It is comparable to the drunkenness.

It arrived in Greece in 2005 on a Boeing 737 of Hélios Airways
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