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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #350 on: March 28, 2015, 02:23:31 pm »

Go for it. At the end of the day, you are balancing resect for the late ship, your enthusiasm for building a great model and your desire to have a model that you can sail.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #351 on: March 28, 2015, 09:35:23 pm »

Joe, the photos is of a batch 2 type 42. The batch 1 did not have stairways, trust the drawing
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #352 on: March 28, 2015, 09:45:32 pm »

Joe, not D118 but same batch (HMS Glasgow)
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #353 on: March 29, 2015, 12:09:20 am »

What a great picture Dave....thankyou for posting it. There do not seem to be a whole lot of pictures of Glasgow during/after her Service in the South Atlantic.
This one, as you will no doubt obviously be aware, (explaination for those who don't) is of her return to the UK. The exit hole created by the 1,000lb bomb can be clearly seen on the ship's side below the Mainmast. This bomb entered from the Starboard side, and carved a path of destruction through the aft end of the AER (After Engine-Room) before punching through the Port side without exploding.
Had it detonated, the effects would have been catastrophic, given that the compartment contains not only the two Tyne Gas Turbines, but also the Main Propulsion Gearboxes, first lengths of shafting, associated Lube Oil Pumps, Hydraulic Oil Pumps for the Controllable Pitch Propellors etc etc. The aft bulkhead would almost certainly of been breached also, allowing the flooding to take hold in two of the four largest compartments in the vessel. There is a very strong possibility that as with Coventry, she would have been lost.
As it was, the crew had a massive damage control job on, but through their outstanding efforts Glasgow, survived. I did read somewhere that there was a Watchkeeper standing between the two Tyne Engine modules (literally about 10 feet from it's route) as the bomb came through, he would of had a War Story to tell.
 
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #354 on: March 29, 2015, 07:28:35 am »

Thanks Dave.   already decided on the vertical ladders, making them up now, the plans I'm using are for Glasgow.  :-))
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #355 on: March 29, 2015, 10:26:41 am »

I reckon ladders are simpler as you do not have to get tread angles right.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #356 on: March 30, 2015, 04:36:45 pm »

Finished the ladders, now thinking about the halyards, rigging , heli landing lights, etc. %%
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #357 on: March 30, 2015, 08:53:29 pm »

Hoo hoo! I can already hear the sound of the motors as you send her on her maiden voyage around the lake/pond.

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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #358 on: April 02, 2015, 05:33:10 pm »

yes she's getting close to being finished, but still a fair bit to do, all the tiny details that for me make all the difference, the pair of 600's have quite a nice drone sound Ian.
I love solder paste you can assemble structures in situ and solder joints something I would not have attempted with wire solder, the more I use the paste the better the results, expensive yes but I will always have some in the workshop. O0
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #359 on: April 02, 2015, 07:28:25 pm »

Finished the ladders, now thinking about the halyards, rigging , heli landing lights, etc. %%
Joe I got some thread from one of the boat shows 0.10 and perfect for halyards as most cottons
have hairy bits which look 'orrid.  I think it was from someone like Modelling Timbers. but if you have to use
Hairy thread it looks far better if you run it through hard wax.
The other thing is if you haven't done your helicopter deck netting I have some mosquito netting which I
used on my 1/96 Leander class - I passed some on to Rob47 and he seems very pleased with it - I could send
you some if you send me your address by p.m.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #360 on: April 02, 2015, 07:41:56 pm »

Hi Geoff,  Thanks for your kind offer but I've done the flight deck netting with fine brass etch, not very authentic but it looks reasonable.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #361 on: April 02, 2015, 11:42:18 pm »

I think that unless you regularly solder, or do it as part of your job, solder paste and paint will be more cost effective in the long run as wastage should be minimal.

The benefit as you say, seems to be that you can solder parts while fitted to the model, so this saves even more in time, which is a valuable asset if you are expected to do your share of the housework, or garden drudgery!
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #362 on: April 03, 2015, 04:31:42 pm »

As you say Ian although the paste is expensive it is in fact very economical in use with only tiny amounts needed on the sort of joints we use on our models, I've been doing some more today, also made a start on the yardarms but run out of the 0.50 brass rod for the yardarm braces. ;) 
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #363 on: April 03, 2015, 05:43:30 pm »

Looking really incredible Joe.  Lovely fine detail work  :-))

For me solder paste is invaluable for this kind of intricate brass-work.  The cost is minimal but the additional degree of control you evidently get is worth its weight in gold.  The ability to solder in situ without melting adjoining plastic is superb. 
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #364 on: April 03, 2015, 07:28:30 pm »

Paste and paint are on my shopping list for future projects.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #365 on: April 04, 2015, 04:32:49 pm »

Luckily the local model shop was open today so was able to get some .5 brass rod to carry on with the yardarm braces etc.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #366 on: April 04, 2015, 06:41:56 pm »

Truly great work there Joe  :-))

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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #367 on: April 04, 2015, 11:12:28 pm »

Which model shop do you use Joe? I know of Fratton Models but am not sure of any others. I used to live in West Sussex, and on annual visits to Pompey (Dad was from Eastney) I popped in for a browse.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #368 on: April 04, 2015, 11:39:14 pm »

There is only one model shop in Gosport, called Mainly Trains and Planes the name pretty much sums it up, but he has got a lot better over the last year and is stocking a lot more building materials.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #369 on: April 05, 2015, 10:02:40 am »

First class stuff Joe. Loving it. :-)) oops got to go, I think me bacon if on fire!!!
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #370 on: April 05, 2015, 04:17:20 pm »

Like the soldering Joe, you talk in the build of solder paste.  My soldering isdone with a fluid which lets the solder flow very quickly so that there are no lumps.  But I am still using solder on a coil and not much heat.  What is the type of solder paste you are using.  It is actual solder but in paste form with flux.
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #371 on: April 05, 2015, 05:39:01 pm »

Hi Paul  Yes it's a grey coloured paste made up of a self cleaning flux and powdered solder you just assemble the joint add a tiny bit of the paste and apply heat with a mini gas touch or a soldering iron and it instantly reverts to solder and runs though the joint, because the solder is already in the flux it leaves a hand free to steady the joint or using tweezers add a piece of brass with a bit of the paste on the end to the assembly, it requires so little heat you can assemble parts close to previous joints, the paste is used a lot in the electronic printed circuit industry, I know I'll never go back to coil solder. :-))
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #372 on: April 05, 2015, 05:45:01 pm »

Thanks Joe will see what I can find as I like that and will help me know end. :-))
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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #373 on: April 05, 2015, 07:52:17 pm »

Have a look at Bob K's build of Polyphemus as he uses solder paint. I assume both are similar but each has properties that do certain jobs best.

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Re: HMS Coventry build
« Reply #374 on: April 05, 2015, 09:18:43 pm »

Using solder paste after seeing Joe's work, for model work never use roll solder again for small intricate work brilliant stuff and not pricy either :-)) :-))
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