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John W E

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Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« on: June 10, 2014, 07:00:17 PM »

Hi all
 
I am trying to find out the best way to paint the glaze on the front windshields/windows on my Merlin helicopter so that they look realistic.   I have seen this done before on other websites, but whats the best way.    I myself havent been able to find out the best method of achieving this.
 
Any help anyone?   I would like to achieve the affect of it looking like there is glass in the model.
 
help....
 
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2014, 11:38:03 PM »

Hi John,
 
If it's clear glass I just use the plastic from the various see-thru packaging you get with things like razors, toys, or even the clear plastic 2ltr bottles if the curviture is right.
 
If it's coloured glass then the same thing applies - i.e. green or blue bottles etc...
 
Failing that, you could try a car accessories shop, for one of those windscreen sun visor strips that used to be popular.
 
For fixing in use canopy glue as this dry's clear.
 
Hope this helps.
 
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Ray.
 
 
 
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Painting windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2014, 08:19:55 AM »

 Thank you for the suggestion.   Have a look at the pic - you will see its a solid form of moulding/resin and to put any form of glazing in - I would have to do major surgery :-) to cut out etc to allow the glass to sit in.   What I am hoping for is some advice on painting directly which I have seen that resembles a glazing of the canopy and windows.   :-))
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 08:51:21 AM »

Try foil (turkey roasting stuff). It's the reflection that gives an impression of glass. I've seen it done on portholes to good effect. It might be a little tricky coping with a compound curved surface but practice could be done on the neck of a plastic bottle or similar.
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 09:03:24 AM »

John, I have some self adhesive foil tape, that may do the trick? It's sort of 'semi shiney' (is that a word?) ...anyway, you're more than welcome to a length of it if you want to try it out?


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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 09:21:07 AM »

Try finding a picture of the Merlin and then reduce it to the size of the model.  This will give an idea of how the windows look at this size.  At a guess I'd say that the small square fuselage windows could be a very dark gray and the cockpit windows; a dark bottle green for the shaded panes and the lower ones a combination of dark and light gray with a bluish tint.  Once you've finished the overall paint job just "glaze" the windows with a glosscoat or Pledge Klear.
If it's 1/350th check with White Ensign Models that they don't have a Trumpeter Merlin which is moulded in clear plastic.
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 09:41:43 AM »

I just use black gloss Humbrol.
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2014, 12:18:13 PM »

Hi John.
 looking at the commercial model coy they just do the windows in black.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-MARINES-1-48-SIKORSKY-CH-53E-SUPER-SEA-STALLION-DESK-DISPLAY-HELICOPTER-MODEL-/230831221611
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 05:03:09 PM »

what kit is that and the scale? The original merlin that is!!!

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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2014, 05:33:02 PM »

hi Lads thank you very much for the replies; this has given me a lot to think about and a lot to try out - I will be back and let you know what I do.
 
Peter, the model kit is a Sirmar Resin Kit - & it is 1:96 scale.
 
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2014, 05:41:37 PM »

Hi
Never tried it but you could always give them a coat of black as previously suggested and if not quite right cover them with model aircraft 'cockpit adhesive' as that dries clear. (About 2.50 a bottle). I have seen this used to glaze portholes in the past.
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 12:31:39 PM »

Hi John,


Could you maybe use an Italeri  1/100 diecast Merlin like this:


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ITALERI-1-100-SCALE-MERLIN-HC3-HELICOPTER-ROYAL-AIR-FORCE-UK-LIKE-IXO-ALTAYA-/141296785333?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item20e5f1d7b5


Either instead of the Sirmar one or mix and match parts. Just a thought.


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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 01:01:48 PM »

Hi Roger.
 only problem with the Italeri/fabri merlin is the undercarriage doors are up as the model is in flying mode hence no wheels supplied.
  also no radar dish underneath the fuselage.  apart from that its perfekt... {-)
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 01:05:22 PM »

I'm sure that's not a problem for an accomplished modeller like John. Just use the bits off the Sirmar one.  :-))
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 07:14:24 PM »

hi ya all and hi ya Roger
 
Thank you for the replies, gives me more to think about - I have already looked at this di-cast metal Merlin and considered using it - but - I had already purchased the Merlin from Sirmar and when I received it - I was in 2 minds whether to use it or not - cos it actually looks a bit too big for the model of Norfolk - its not out of scale but it does look huge on the back of the ship.  However when I have been looking at pics of the Merlin I have seen several pics of the Merlin on the back of HMS Westminster.  It looks massive on the back of that in real life - how they fit it into the hangar I dont know - it must be a tight squeeze.
I have also purchased the Lynx Helicopter from Sirmar - quite a collection I am building :-)
 
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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 12:40:09 PM »


A pic I took at the consolidation point at Shawbury for the Fleet Air Arm 100 display over the Mersey.

Untitled by rajd999, on Flickr

The rest of the gallery of 32 pics of Merlins on the day.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/91036667@N00/sets/72157633216919110

Hope they provide inspiration/guidance John.

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Re: Assimilating windows on resin helicopter - help
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2014, 04:54:59 PM »

Hi John.
 
Had a rummage through my naval helideck box and found I had an Italeri/ fabri Italian navy merlin in my stash.  As you can see from the photos there are three screws on the underside which opens up the possibilities of fitting a white metal set of wheels.  It would be lot lighter than the solid block resin model.
 
Frank.
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