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British motorcycles
« on: July 07, 2014, 08:41:42 pm »

 :-)) With Triumph going from strength to strength, Norton say they cannot make enough bikes and now Ariel are back on the scene with a V four stunner called the Ace,funny how things go in cycles (please excuse the pun) so British engineering is not completely dead,  Ray. :-)) 
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 02:53:41 am »

A really nice beast of a bike, slotting into a different niche to the usual Japanese offerings is the way to go.


But 20 000 pounds? Phew!
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 03:34:01 am »

Yup, old British bikes refuse to die. i was just given one a as basket case last week. All the bits are there, but in boxes awaiting restoration. Its a 1951 BSA M20 with chrome tank and painted wheels fenders and frame. I'll get at when i'm finished my 1974 Honda CB750.

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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 07:54:26 am »

  I have been told that they are now making new Brough Superior motorcycles with J.A.P engines
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 09:50:57 am »

Hi,

I  hope it's an improvement on the Ariel Arrow Super Sports and the Leader!

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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 10:06:32 am »

 ;) Yes they where nasty smelly things,bother-in-law had one told him not to park near my Vellocette V line Venom clubman not in the same class,the Ariel looks like it is the bees knees as for £20,000 price tag for a custom made bike you could well spend that on a stock bike and getting it the way you want it,swings and roundabouts I am afraid,anyway I wish them success with this venture,Ray. :embarrassed:
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 10:10:58 am »

Hi Sparkey,

Looking closer at the bike it reminds me of a Munch Mammoth.

If memory serves it had a Volkswagen car engine.

You did not sit on it, more in it.

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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 10:40:13 am »

Well I would get lost in it then,last bike I had was a Norton Interstate 1974 which I had from 1977 till 1996 it never let me down, had one or two oil leaks which I never cured,kept it in the garage and looked after it as it was my prized item spent hours cleaning it,the brakes could have been better one disk on front drum on rear not up to modern standards I am afraid,when I sold it broke my heart even though I got more than I paid for it,Ray.   
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 11:43:57 am »

Well I would get lost in it then,last bike I had was a Norton Interstate 1974 which I had from 1977 till 1996 it never let me down, had one or two oil leaks which I never cured,kept it in the garage and looked after it as it was my prized item spent hours cleaning it,the brakes could have been better one disk on front drum on rear not up to modern standards I am afraid,when I sold it broke my heart even though I got more than I paid for it,Ray.
I had one of those whilst in Australia.......let me down daily, lol

also new on the  market is a new Hesketh Vtwin.............stunning looker too
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 12:02:00 pm »

I have just returned from the Padstow Vintage Rally,and every day the ring had a parade of Vintage bikes.The sight and sounds brought back a lot of memories
Triumph Speed Twin,Triumph Trophy Trials,Matchless 250,BSA C15,BSA Shooting Star, Triumph Tiger 90,Sunbeam S7,Grieves Sports Twin,Triumph Tiger 110,1962 Bonneville, around 70 bikes altogether


Nothing Like the sound of them!
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 12:03:25 pm »

With bikes like cars it is the luck of the draw,in the 70s I bought a Yamaha rd 250 as I wanted a light fast bike to get around London in the two years I had it the bike broke down at least once a week and had all the electric's replaced whole in warranty yet other people had same bike and said it was wonderful,luck of the draw,I thought Hesketh went out of production some time ago shows how much I know,I bet a lot of little firms are making famous named bikes without us knowing about them,Ray.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 03:24:47 pm »

Lots of little firms did go out of production, but someone bought the brand and sometimes the production rights. As was the case with Triumph.


Sometimes just the brand was purchased. Now some of these brands are being resurrected. Same happened with cars like the Maybach, and Bugatti.

The Ariel has a different story.I think the Ariel company ceased trading in the late 60s and the brand seems to have been 'lost' in shffling around of NVT, BSA, Manganese Holdings, and the newer BSA Company.


However the 'Ariel' name was used to form a new company in 1991,  In 2001 the company changed it name to 'Ariel Motor Company. They produce the Ariel Atom and the Ariel Ace and this company has no connection with the old Arial motorbikes whatsoever.


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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 03:55:09 pm »

A very dear friend(who now has sadly passed away) had a "Matchless" 1000cc only ever seen old blk/wht photo from a long time ago was there one at padstow (Mick French)
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2014, 06:27:45 pm »

I believe the munich mammoth had an nsu engine in it....tony all the old british bikes..what memories they bring back...
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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 09:11:40 am »

Hi all,

I bow to superior knowledge, it was the NSU engine. It is so long ago it is a wonder I got the name of the bike right:

Using an 1177cc four-cylinder NSU car engine, the Mammoth produced 88bhp and was good for over 130mph

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2014, 09:20:03 am »

Hi all,

I bow to superior knowledge, it was the NSU engine. It is so long ago it is a wonder I got the name of the bike right:

Using an 1177cc four-cylinder NSU car engine, the Mammoth produced 88bhp and was good for over 130mph

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and gawd was it an ugly bike...............give me a Vincent Black shadow or Black Prince any day..( am I allowed to say that with all the PC brigade around these days.)
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2014, 10:50:19 am »

I had the privilege to ride a Black Shadow, a WW1 Army Harley and an Indian at a motor museum.

Great fun!

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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2014, 02:20:42 pm »

Hi,

I  hope it's an improvement on the Ariel Arrow Super Sports and the Leader!

Regards


 The Leader was a great bike, years ahead of other models, with built in carriers, underseat tank, indicators, totally enclosed chain and adjustable headlamp. I had one and my wife and I rode it all over England and on two Europe Holidays, without a murmur. First time starter and good weather protection. If you want to see what was intended Google Ariel Leader 4. Thar was for a model with in line 4 cylinder OHV with shaft drive.all that in 1960. Killed off by that idiot Turner. ( no Bike needs more than 2 cylinders). There is one in existance somewhere. I think this new one looks dreadful, Yuck!

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Re: British motorcycles
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2014, 02:36:21 pm »

I had the privilege to ride a Black Shadow, a WW1 Army Harley and an Indian at a motor museum.

Great fun!

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you lucky sod rick. neil.
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2014, 02:50:12 pm »

Yes I was and to top it all off we then had a ride in Hermann Goering's staff car.

All armour plated, bullet proof glass and six wheels.

One perfect day.

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