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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2014, 04:21:37 PM »

Rich,
Why do you think most airline owners have
Ocean Going Yachts to travel around in?

Look online for fast box boats to Canada from UK
Some have a few passenger berths.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2014, 04:34:54 PM »

I'll have a dicky in my mate Rich Branson's shell like, see if he wants to earn a few bob in petrol money...


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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2014, 05:17:09 PM »

seriously, Rich......

if you don't fancy going by air.........have a look in the back pages of a magazine called Sea Breezes.......there is a company that regularly sails from Antwerp, Southampton Tilbury and other southern ports..........it's main cargos are frozen foods out and banana's back...they take passengers, and the accommodation is luxurious...maximum usually 8 - 10 paying passengers and it was, last time I enquired about 4 years ago, 80 quid a night all in per passenger ......even wine at the dinner table..............they go world wide......and cheaper than aircraft as well on a short Atlantic trip. forgot the name of the company but been going for years.........may be more to your liking.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2014, 05:29:54 PM »

That's interesting, Neil...thanks for that. But, I have to get on a plane...I know we've all been joking about me doing it, but my sister comes home from Vancouver Island regularly, in fact she's coming over again in August, and if she can do it at eighty eight years of age, then I can do it at sixty five. My late father went when he was sixty four and mother was sixty three, my late brother went at the age of sixty two, so I really have no excuse not to.


It's been a good few years since I went in a plane, so I'm guessing things have changed somewhat...


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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2014, 06:01:17 PM »

If you travel across the pond in a ship, you still have a 6000km journey ahead of you to reach Vancouver.  Better off flying.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2014, 06:35:52 PM »

I'd love to beg a lift on one of our subs...I wonder where Astute is?  %)


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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2014, 08:34:21 PM »

That's interesting, Neil...thanks for that. But, I have to get on a plane...I know we've all been joking about me doing it, but my sister comes home from Vancouver Island regularly, in fact she's coming over again in August, and if she can do it at eighty eight years of age, then I can do it at sixty five. My late father went when he was sixty four and mother was sixty three, my late brother went at the age of sixty two, so I really have no excuse not to.


It's been a good few years since I went in a plane, so I'm guessing things have changed somewhat...


Rich

First long haul flight I did on my own from the States I was only 8, you will be fine..

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2014, 10:08:27 PM »

It's been a good few years since I went in a plane, so I'm guessing things have changed somewhat...

  Only for the worse my friend.

I'd love to beg a lift on one of our subs...I wonder where Astute is?

I think that if they see your sig they might just decline your request.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2014, 10:27:11 PM »

Here's a link for a Felixstowe - New York route: http://www.freightercruises.com/seaworthy_news_1104.php
Then you take the train (Amtrak) to Montreal, then VIA Rail Canada to Toronto, where you board a transcontinental train for Vancouver. NO flying required!  :-))

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2014, 09:49:15 AM »

Hi, U33 last year about this time I travelled on an A 380 top deck at the back (Emirates) and you feel more like being in a large room.  Very little sensation of anything really, even take off and landing.  In a large aircraft there are fewer sudden movements.

I always go for an aisle seat, I flew about 45,000 miles last year, a record for me.  If you select an aisle seat in the 3 seat configuration you frequently have an empty seat next to you.
Most long haul flights will need you to decide where you want to sit on-line 24 hours before you are due to fly.  Some times if you book earlier you may have to pay 25 per flight!  But when you have booked / paid for your seat there should be a seat allocated to you.  It is just doing it for the first time that is daunting!

If you go one month and come back the next month you should get a change of films etc.

As far as travel insurance goes I have a current account that gives free insurance for EU travel and cost 20 to upgrade to World wide cover for a whole year.  But as Neil says don't go without it.
Worrying about 7 miles of 'thin' air under you is as daft as thinking about how deep the ocean is when in a ship.

We all have to live with a degree of trust placed in others especially in the transport business.  I have a cousin now retired who drove an underground train in London, now you could reall worry about being in a tube train!  But I do it on a regular basis and I am claustophobic and sometimes have a bad night and have to keep the light on.

Not easy but a bit of Displacement Therapy helps, take a book or plan you next model boat etc.
So a bit of common sense plus checking on what your fears really are, it is not flying which is the problem it is crashing and at least you know the pilot is trained ( I like to find a lady pilot as they have had to work harder to get the job!) not so a lot of the car drivers you will meet on the way to the airport.
Good luck anyway check what is the worst that can happen, see how often it happens and then compare it with driving on our roads.

A small tip, we all take water with us now but you cannot take it through security.  The solution is simple ,empty the bottle before security and take the empty bottle with you.  When through security you will find outside all of the toilet areas there are are cool water fountains and fill the bottle there.

While flying last year I saw a film I would otherwise have missed "Robot and Frank"  it's a great film, should be on TV in a year or so don't miss it!

good luck and kind regards Roy
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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2014, 10:21:49 AM »

Humans are rubbish at estimating risk.

Statistics are better! Here's the facts:

Deaths per billion kilometres -

air              0.05
bus              0.4
rail             0.6
van              1.2
water transport  2.6
car              3.1
bicycle         44.6
pedestrian      54.2
motorcycle     108.9

So every mile you drive is 62 times more risky than flying. Vancouver is 4700 miles from the UK - the same risk of death as a drive of 76 miles. How far from the airport are you?

And finally, those figures are per billion kilometres. You'd have to fly the LHR/YVR round-trip six hundred thousand times to stand an evens chance of death.

It really is very safe.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2014, 10:50:18 AM »

Rich,
Book the flight, get on the plane and off the other end, simples!!
If your time is up it wont matter where you are so just go enjoy Canada.


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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2014, 11:08:21 AM »

You can also remember that almost all crashes are on take-off or landing - so long as you don't die in a massive fireball on take-off, then you only have to be prepared to jump and run through a smaller fireball at the other end.

But at least you'd be at your destination.

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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2014, 12:00:39 PM »

You lot really crack me up, the class of humour is amazing...and I thank you all.


I am going to get on that plane...my name has been short listed twice already by the Big Man, and twice I've been turned away at the Pearly Gates, so I don't fear meeting my maker at all. At least if I'm six miles up it won't be so far to go, will it? I'll be half way there before the ink has dried on his list of the day...


I have my list of things to take, I've made my will (unofficially adopted daughter seems  to be very friendly towards me all of a sudden  %) ) my boats will be going to my good friend Andy, and whatever is left will be sold and the proceeds will go to the RNLI. I guess I'm about ready...now all that remains is select the date of departure, pay for everything (ouch... <:( ) and I'm ready.


Thanks guys...


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« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2014, 12:18:07 PM »

And we ;)   will all be here when you get back
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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2014, 12:23:39 PM »

And as Arnie once said...''I'll be back''


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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2014, 05:08:35 PM »

Friday the 13th seems a good day to fly!!!


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« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2014, 05:31:04 PM »

you could go back on the lancaster that came from Canada - the ticket should be cheaper - that other guy paid for most of it  {-)
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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2014, 07:46:52 PM »

Strangely there's a program on tonight about the Lancaster I think, 9.30 BBC2



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Re: Flying...gulp.
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2014, 08:30:54 PM »

I'll be the one waving from the window... ;)


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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2014, 07:24:26 PM »

That's interesting, Neil...thanks for that. But, I have to get on a plane...I know we've all been joking about me doing it, but my sister comes home from Vancouver Island regularly, in fact she's coming over again in August, and if she can do it at eighty eight years of age, then I can do it at sixty five. My late father went when he was sixty four and mother was sixty three, my late brother went at the age of sixty two, so I really have no excuse not to.


It's been a good few years since I went in a plane, so I'm guessing things have changed somewhat...


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yes Richard things have changed planes now have inside toilets lol
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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2014, 08:10:35 PM »

Yea ok..thanks Mark, for that gem of information!


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« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2014, 05:55:22 PM »

and beds - depending on what you pay, so you could lie down and watch the ceiling move strangely compared to the other sections of the plane (one twists one way while the other twists the other.  %)
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« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2014, 05:58:54 PM »

yes Richard things have changed planes now have inside toilets lol

...and only one set of wings, not two.  ;D

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« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2014, 06:16:19 PM »

and surprisingly, more than one engine. but they do have fire coming out it - sometimes not neccesarily as expected
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