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MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:13:09 AM »

Hi Folks,

Here is my new build of a Fairmile D MGB658 @1/72. I afraid to say that it will not be R/C as I'm aiming to get it as detailed as possible.

The build will be built on Christians latest hull a 'Fairmile D' @ 1/72 complete with spray rails and rubbing strake which he has kindly let me have the first one. http://www.mtbhulls.co.uk/home

This picture is the inspiration for the build,  taken in Bastia, Corsica



The hull is a superb rendition of the Dog Boat hull requiring very little in the way of preparation, a few air bubbles and the odd blemish. Great job Christian. After washing, sanding with wet and dry, washing it was primed with Acrylic grey primer.












For those interested in R/C I reckon it could be done fairly easily. The boat has a large central accommodation, the hull and deck weighs in at 204gms / 7 1/8 ozs. I reckon the scale displacement to be 720gms/ 25.4ozs. Although Christian normally supplies the huls with the deck attached he will supply them as separate pieces. I also seem to recall him saying he can build lighter for R/C.

Thanks for stopping by, I hope you find it interesting.

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 09:53:48 AM »

What a super moulding, looking forward to your build longshanks.


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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 10:47:21 PM »

Thought you might be interested in my references, if you know of any more please let me know.

There is a large amount of info available

John Lamberts Plans  http://www.feralchic.../lambert-plans/

Allied Coastal Forces of WWII by John Lambert & Al Ross

The Fairmile D by John Lambert

Gunboat 658 by L.C. Reynolds. A personal account of his service on MGB658 from her build in Brixham in '43 through to the end of the war in the Med. He started as a midshipman and finished as commanding officer on the same boat. Great insight into life on these boats.

Mr Reynolds (RIP) has also published several other books

Dog Boats at War: Royal Navy MGBs and MTBs in Action, 1939-45

Mediterranean MTBs at War - Short MTB Flotilla Operations 1939-1945

Home Waters - MTBs and MGBs at War 1939-1945
 

To enable me to build this to a reasonable standard I will be using Coastal Craft Models excellent range of fittings, note they also do complete multi media kits.

http://coastalcraftmodelsuk.com/

Plus additional fittings from David J Parkins splendid range (includes lots for Flower class corvette)

http://www.djparkins...ttle_Ships.html

The hull of course from http://www.mtbhulls.co.uk/home
 

In between all this there will be a fair bit of scratch building  %%
 
I also hope you lot are going to help . . . . . .

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 09:49:16 AM »

See if you can find the book 'Flag Four'. If nothing else it is a gret read but has some photos that might be of use.

Lovely crisp hull.
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 07:15:40 PM »

Thanks for that buddy I'll try the library  :-))
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2014, 05:15:42 PM »

Hi Folks,

Just a small update, work getting in the way of life ;-)

Accommodation block drawn out on deck along with the watertight bulkheads.




Its my intention to build the block over a coaming so that the block can be removed for ease of building. I guess I could of built the coaming on top of the deck but I wanted to have access below decks for reasons that may become apparent later.

So with some trepidation I set to with a 'Dremel' type cutting wheel. . . . .



I need not have worried, lovely quality. I reckon the deck is  around 1.5/ 2mm thick. Aft cleaned up Fwd as cut with disc.

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2014, 09:06:40 PM »

That is a good thickness. I hope my hull for HMS Rupert will be of similar chunkiness in due course.

Did you cut straight along the lines or did you sand the last smidgeon away to them?
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2014, 10:11:20 PM »

I'm sure HMS Rupert will be to Christians usual high standard  ok2
I've a couple of his hulls and this is the first I've cut, nicely laid up inside.

Cut inside line with wheel and then sanded back using 60 grit and as you can see no flaking of gel coat

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2014, 10:50:45 AM »

Already starting to look good Kevin, I shall be following this one!
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2014, 06:31:09 PM »

Well life has been getting in the way of the real world :frantic:
 I've finally got a day to myself and time to see if my cunning plan is going to work . . . . .
 Opened up the two forward hatches. The one nearest the bow (pointy end) is the crew messroom, the second opens into a lobby connecting messroom, galley, skippers cabin etc..

Thought process . . . boat alonside in the Med, nearly all the doors / hatches would be open. Soooo there had to be some interior detail . . .
 Start of crew messroom. The plan above shows the area to the right of the lighter.


Hence corners have to be cut off
 
Its in :thumbsup:
The drawing on the right side shows the side elevation of the area in question.
 




and yes it does come out.
All I've got to do now is detail it, all thats present at the moment are the bottom bunks :banghead:
 Thanks for stopping by
Kev


 
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2014, 09:35:05 PM »

Excellent, internal detail on a working model, that is mega!
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 04:08:54 PM »

Excellent, internal detail on a working model, that is mega!

Unfortunately not working  %)

On a model only 19" (480mm) long with a semi detailed interior(remember it can only be seen through the open hatches, each of which is only 10mm square) . I hope to detail engineroom, fuel tanks etc.. So unless I can pick up 1/72 Packard/Merlin working engines I'm snookered.  %%

If anyone can think of a source for 1/72 Merlin engines it would save me a lot of scratch building.

Thanks for looking

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 04:22:15 PM »

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 04:48:01 PM »

Thanks Dave,
You may have saved my sanity  O0

Although the marine engine is slightly different with the restricted view these could well be suitable. Will have to check my references to see any major differences.

Thanks again for your input

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 08:01:33 PM »


Not to mention the 1/72 aircraft kits with the same engine, after all weren't aircraft engines modified for marine use.????
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2014, 08:22:20 PM »

 ok2 .... 'after all weren't aircraft engines modified for marine use.????'  O0...well many certainly were....just needed a fresh sea water to sea water intercooler......Derek
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2014, 08:33:34 PM »

Fresh Sea Water ??????

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 08:45:52 PM »

The earlier Marine engines were direct aircraft conversions but later variants used in Chieftain tanks and RAF Marine use were downrated by lowering the compression ratio and sometimes for competition increasing supercharger pressure.
I worked on an old converted RAF launch which still had the cartridge start.


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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2014, 12:48:20 AM »

 :D...sorry Ned...just a few too many glasses of RED ned causing the typo

Am sure all new the intent  :P ....closed circuit fresh water cooling with a sea water combined inter cooler

In smaller scales........the fresh water cooling system was just a series of manifolds & pipes run under the hull with the fresh water circulating & relying on a differential between the engine running temp & thus the delta T of the sea water  :-)) ......which was termed as surface condensing or surface cooling  O0 ....

If further clarification is required  {-)...there are two neds here..........

One being Netleyned from north of the border...& the other ned from my glass........Derek
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2014, 09:19:16 AM »

Let's not forget that Dogboats had Packard 4M-2500 engines, these were not the Merlin copies built for aircraft but a marine version of Packard's 1924 design. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2014, 10:12:37 AM »

Aftermarket resin engines are available although you'd probably have to use something like a Merlin engine.  The link is to a website for Berliner Zinnfiguren which does a lot of add on parts for 1/72 scale models.
http://www.zinnfigur.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=Merlin+Engine&sort=1d&osCsid=4ki7r5q80pgek0bj6bgqv716l6&x=12&y=6
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2014, 10:36:10 PM »

Thanks for all the input guys . . . .

Small update to keep you interested  ok2

I've been detailing the crew messroom with tables and benches plus mattresses. The ford door is to the washroom, the aft watertight door leads to the rest of the accommodation.
 







The side shelves either side clip on so that they can be fixed when the bulk is inserted into the hull

The messroom has been shortened and the height reduced to allow the module to slip through the aperture, neither of which will show through the hatch.

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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2014, 11:45:19 AM »

Classic design feature having the heads in a place that can dip and climb many feet in seconds while you are sat on the Khazi! I hope the designer got to experience that piece of genius. I appreciate that the heads have been in the bows for years but at least for centuries they were 'gravity emptied'.

We probably do not want to go into too much detail here about Ships Heads:O)

Looking great with lots of detail.
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2014, 11:21:30 PM »

Managed to find the time to add a bit more to the messdeck

Electric heaters added for crew comfort and the provision of storage behind the seat backs/ mattresses.


Addition of table and benches plus my interpretation of a pipe cot. There should of course be supports (wire/rope ?) to the deckhead from the outer edge







All this is only visible through a hole 10mm square in the deck, must be daft  %) 

Thanks for looking in

Kev

PS Noticed the aft corner of the cot had come adrift, now repaired
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Re: MGB658 Fairmile D @ 1/72
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »

That is good, as otherwise, it is a tight build with plenty of detail considering the viewing apeture. If the 'innards' are that good, I can't wait to see more of the superstructire and hull!
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