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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2014, 09:59:00 PM »

thanks

a bit rough round the edges but bit more shaping and with primer and paint it should look ok

really enjoyed it so far and for me that's whats its about
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plug

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 10:22:59 PM »

What clearcoat did you use, is it the acrlic, waterproof when it dries, i've no idea what to paint on ply and what clearcoat to use to waterproof

regards Jack
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Stavros

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2014, 10:31:12 PM »

plug if you want to waterproof fly go to Halfords and get some of their car laquer it is waterpoof
 
 
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 10:38:47 PM »

is all laquer waterproof ?

what about this one ,

http://www.wilko.com/metal-and-specialist-paint/wilko-quick-dry-gloss-paint-multi-surface-aerosol-clear-400ml/invt/0218908

it says interior and exterior....... bit cheaper ?
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Stavros

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 10:46:33 PM »

All Laquer is waterproof BUT BUT BUT ....A word of WARNING here NEVER NEVER mix and match different makes of paint a Big NO NO as it will end in TEARS.
 
The Halfords paints are Acrylics great you can use ANY of their products.
 
The link you have just put up is an ENAMEL paint.....put an Acrylic over that one and hey presto INSTANT reaction and I will say then told you so  O0 O0 O0
 
 
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2014, 11:03:32 PM »

gotcha...... stick to same brand names

this is my first model and big learning curve

for jack , this is my first boat so listen to Stavros

this thread is to document problems I come up against and solving issues..... so far guys have came up trumps..... do you have a build log for your boat jack ( plug ) fun way to not only document but for others to watch and beginners like myself to pick up tips
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plug

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2014, 11:46:09 AM »

Stavros (Dave) thanks for the info, did'nt know Halfords paint was all acrylic.

Mike, no not doing a build log, not started it yet  i'm a slow worker, two weeks thinking to produce an hours work

regards Jack.
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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2014, 01:54:05 AM »

Reference the "all around bumper" - I used a broken fanbelt (from SWMBO's tumble dryer), glued on with epoxy resin.
 
See my build here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,47660.0.html
 
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2014, 04:38:37 PM »

so managed to get a bit more done

shaped the hull and filled in tiny gaps and general making the shape a bit more rounded and smooth

also added the comin ? not sure if correct word 4 strips of wood around opening in hull.

this is when I found out about section I should have cut, for the cabin you have to cut corners of the middle frame of cabin for it to slide over hull.

primed just the cabin for now ......... starting to think about electrics next     :-))

filled in round top of boat




some pics of my trials

superglued then filled round edges



used this filler from wilkos only 2 pound per tube for wood and easily sandable




roughly filled when set round the edge





cabin now primed

lightly at first




two more coats







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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2014, 09:39:24 PM »

Looking good! :-))

I, too, have been thinking about the electrics. My boat will have a 385, which is what the designer recommended for use on small ponds. I just might buy 6 different props in the hope that one of them will be 'perfect' for this boat.

Tom
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2014, 07:15:55 PM »

28/12

so a bit of painting and lacquering later I am getting towards electrics but I have a few questions

parts left, recognise some "extras " stand strengthners optional I decided not to use

so in order does anyone have a pic of completed "antenna" ie how to put together top left in pic

next door optional ?

other items no idea, I have bought an aluminium mount and do not know what other parts are for

help needed ... thanks







more pics to follow
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2014, 07:21:10 PM »

decided on silver deck orange cabin, black bottom and orange sides

looks pretty good in my opinion and will be able to see on water












overall not bad for first effort


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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2014, 07:33:22 PM »

Your front windows appear to be the wrong way round, they should follow the roof line.
 
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2014, 07:45:58 PM »

hi

had a few say that, will alter once I can find out best way to cut it out and reglue with out to much damage
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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2014, 09:10:23 PM »

Mike,

Here's my interpretation of the bits & pieces in your photo:

Antenna: From the top -
Two mast yardarms
Two bases for masts
Two masts
I'm assuming those little bits are the bottoms, backs and ends for the running light boxes

Motor mount: How you mount the motor depends upon the motor's shape. Use the supplied mount or create your own.

Door: You could attach it in opened or closed position. You could install working hinges and a latch, too. If the door is open, you could instal a master on/off switch just inside.

The items in (C) are rudder mechanism mounts, according to my set of plans.

And (D): The shorter arches and straight pieces are formers for the wheelhouse roof. The other pieces are spacers for the coaming, I think.

That's just my interpretation, of course. The designer probably had something entirely different in mind!

Tom
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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2014, 05:53:25 PM »





This was made from a free plan in a magazine, all scratch built in Styrene sheet.

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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2015, 07:39:50 PM »

need some help/info

inside of boat do I waterproof and what to use

all I have is plasterers webbing tape, the tape you use to join the plasterboards and pva glue ?

also no details about were to drill for rudder and propshaft anyone care to share details

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2015, 08:47:33 PM »

ERM I do sinceerely hope you have acces to the rear of the deck what I mean is hope there is NO bulkhead to stop you getting access to the rear if so a hole will have to be cut to gain access.....It is such a shame you didnt ask for this advise when you were building the hull up as it would have saved you a lot of greif.
 
You will need to drill a hole for the rudder I would hazard a GUESS 40 mm from the stern and a hole for hte shaft around 50 mm fwd of this....PLEASE PLEASE get s shaft and a motor mount BEFORE you start drilling holes and also a propellor
 
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Stavros

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2015, 08:48:59 PM »

As for waterproofing this is simple ...get some fibergall resin mix some up and simply pour it insdie and then slosh it around till you cover the whole inside of the boat pour the excess out of it
 
 
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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2015, 11:50:29 AM »

ERM I do sinceerely hope you have acces to the rear of the deck what I mean is hope there is NO bulkhead to stop you getting access to the rear if so a hole will have to be cut to gain access.....It is such a shame you didnt ask for this advise when you were building the hull up as it would have saved you a lot of greif.
 
You will need to drill a hole for the rudder I would hazard a GUESS 40 mm from the stern and a hole for hte shaft around 50 mm fwd of this....PLEASE PLEASE get s shaft and a motor mount BEFORE you start drilling holes and also a propellor
 
Dave

hi

well there is a rear bulkhead but access is really good I can get my little hands all the way in and feel around the rear of the boat, not quite sure what your getting at but all seems good for access ?

will put a pic up soon to show access,  also have to prop , motor shaft etc, will put some details up soon as well
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2015, 12:24:04 PM »

so what running gear is going in

well what went into traplet boat on their stand was

mfa 719re540/1 motor

10 inch shaft

standard servo

from what I can gahter pretty standard rudder

marine vier 15 esd with built in fail safe

now I need to mount and position this


a few pics to show access for Stavros ( hope I have not messed up here ) and the running gear





to show good access ( I hope )





running gear to be fitted



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Stavros

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2015, 08:32:01 PM »

it is going to be VERY tight,but you need to drill and fit the rudder in the rear compartment roughly half way between bulkhead and the stern.....as for the propshaft this could be fun as it is now guesswork to where a hole will be drilled .....I would hazard a GUESS that it will be APPROX and I say APPROX 100mm in front of the bulkhead you wont be far wrong with that then you can get a good angle for the propshaft to motor,I can see NO coupling in the pic to connect the shaft to the motor....you will need one !!!!...you need to get the motor to shaft in the same plane..............
 
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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2015, 08:52:51 PM »

thanks

so to recap hole for rudder through the keel half way from stern to rear bulkhead

for prop tube 100mm away from rear bulkhead, what angle roughly for this 45 degrees ? and also through the keel .

I also have the coupling it was hiding behind motor

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Mike0001

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2015, 02:31:16 PM »

need some help with regards to rudder mounts ? labelled c in picture



3 parts of wood ... how and where to mount ?

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Re: Beginners Story ( a pilot boat )
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2015, 04:46:53 PM »

Have you bought a back dated copy of the Mag with the free plan in it, ALL the instructions are in it.
Rudder box.. Glue the bit with hole in it to the tops of the other two then glue it to the hull bottom behind the rear bulkhead with the hole near to the pointy end.
 I am remembering these details so I may be wrong.

Regards.

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