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Re: high blood pressure
« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2014, 07:58:51 pm »

I once got winged at by one of the younger mid 20's rugby playing doctors at out local surgery thatmy blood pressure was better than his.
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« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2014, 08:10:17 pm »

well I got my referral from my doctors to go private, have to ring axa ( my works medical care ) to get the ball rolling on monday.....

only other symptom I have is quite tender under the sternum (where your ribs meet ) and now mild pain in chest , tablets brought down my blood pressure but still don't feel right in myself, run 20 yards or even going up stairs out of breath

so hopefully consultation before Christmas and then the treatment, definitely angiogramn first

replies have been great and read in detail every one of them
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« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2014, 08:31:15 pm »

Our OZ Prime Minister recently tried to apply a $7.00 co-payment to see your GP....but the opposition & independents canned that in the Senate  <*<

His next step is to reduce the Government payment to all GP's by the same $5.00 who use the bulk billing system [pensioners & health card holders excepted]

When I saw my very tall dark skinned GP this week....she spoke for 10 minutes on her views of our PM  >>:-( ........ appears he makes her blood boil.......  :D .... Derek
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 ;) my thoughts on the matter as below

"Please excuse me if I appear misguided…but my understanding is….

1.   In 2014……the Abbot Government budget proposal for a GP consultation $7.00 co-payment was rejected by the Senate
2.   Today the PM advises that proposal is scrapped but the following will apply

•   A new Government reimbursement will apply to all GP’s under the Government Health regulations
•   They will be paid $5.00 less for each standard consultation they provide to clients
•   It the Doctor wishes to maintain be paid the standard Government rebate for each standard consultation…they must charge a $5.00 co-payment to the client [which is electronically remitted to the  Government]
•   Under 16’s, pensioners, & Health Card recipient’s will be exempt from the new co-payment system
•   So my question is two fold

3.   Is the Government simply shifting the unpleasantness of asking patients for $5.00 extra to see the Doctor onto the Doctors shoulders?
4.   The PM today also remonstrated on Doctors charging the standard schedule fee but for consultations less than his standard 10 minutes
5.   If a Doctor worked 8 hours per day = 480 minutes of chargeable time @ 10 minutes per patient there would be approx 48 patients per day
6.   If the Doctor worked 48 weeks per year we have [48 patients per day x 5 days per week  x 240 working days PA = 56,250 patients]
7.   If the standard Government payment to a GP is $38.00 for a standard consultation…we see the GP being paid $2,137,500 PA
8.   Will the NXT & the PUP & Lambie have the intestinal fortitude to speak up about this?


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« Reply #53 on: December 12, 2014, 10:17:33 pm »


5.   If a Doctor worked 8 hours per day = 480 minutes of chargeable time @ 10 minutes per patient there would be approx 48 patients per day
6.   If the Doctor worked 48 weeks per year we have 48 patients per day x 5 days per week  x 240 working days PA = 56,250 patients]
7.   If the standard Government payment to a GP is $38.00 for a standard consultation…we see the GP being paid $2,137,500 PA
8.   Will the NXT & the PUP & Lambie have the intestinal fortitude to speak up about this?

48 patients @ $38 = $1824 per day
$1824 x 5 days per week = $9120 per week
$9120 x 48 weeks = $437,760 per year.     Or am I missing something?

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« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2014, 10:35:53 pm »

Derek, you have used 240 days whereas this should have been 48 weeks.
Your already into weeks with the 5 days, so a factor of 5 out.
divide $2,137,500 by 5 and we have
$427,500.
The difference with davidm1945 is in your line 6. which should have been 57,600. You didn't use the approx 48 patients per day, but the actual number, didn't you.
so both then get the same answer.
Then you have to take out wages for staff and office rent/running costs to get down to anything like the doctors actual earnings.
To early, my plastic brain hurts
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« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2014, 12:38:12 am »

:embarrassed:...opps........found out... >>:-(

it was just a RED herring to see if anyone was watching.......sorry guys.......or maybe too many glasses of RED ned?  ......or enough to raise my blood pressure....... Derek

PS...it is reported that the image below is a true to life representation of me working in the garden.......very thirsty work this gardening stuff..... {-)
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« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2014, 12:51:54 am »

opps, sorry Derek, but think I've eaten a few of your overseas cousins, in Vietnam.
Quite partial to soute'd 'frogs' legs, just like mini drum sticks. And go down well with a nice wine.
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« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2014, 09:18:41 am »

certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?
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« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2014, 10:47:59 am »

certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?
  Drink enough of it and I don't suppose you are bothered about either of them
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« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2014, 10:59:55 am »

What I was told by my consultant heart surgeon on my first post op check up after bypass about BP, heart disease and smoking was this.
I will not ask you if you still smoke because I hate being lied to and I have seen your breathe analysis report, your oxygen levels are fine by the way.
Whatever you are doing, is not doing you any harm, as long as you keep to the same routine as you are now on, that is , if you did smoke and at present were smoking less than 10 cigarettes a day, the benefits to you  with regard to stress relief is probably doing more good than harm. However, this is not an endorsement of smoking, and does not mean that you have carte blanche to have 11 a day. just go steady and you will suffer no problems, though less would be better, and none would be better still if you could find alternative stress relief, and alcohol doesnt come into the equation. Thats if you did smoke of course.
When I trimmed up my left hand with my new chopsaw, I was in theatre for over 9 hours while they stitched the bits back on, no Radiojoe you cant use epoxy, no one mentioned my heart condition, but all subsequent ops were done under a local ( not fun) because I had a heart condition and they felt it was too dangerous to put me under. I cant understand that one as most ops lasted 30 mins, and no one would ever explain it to me.
One thing that did fox me was the air ambulance response when paramedic asked for transport to hospital 30 miles fron scene . It was refused on the following grounds
1 I was a male over 60
2 it was not my dominent hand
3 male hands are not classified as "cosmetic"??? whilest female hands are
wanted to go in chopper, looking forward to it....still had an exciting ride in ambulane with police escort, felt like royaly.
Mike as I said before, this is not the end of your active life, its the start of a new lifestyle, best of wishes jenga
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« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2014, 12:04:56 pm »

Yes, I discovered it gets messy when you try to stop a hedge trimmer with your fingers!! 

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« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2014, 01:30:34 pm »

strange thing was....no pain and no blood... for about 2 hours the all hell broke loose lol
Luckily the saw was brand new and razor sharp, irony is for the previous year or so had been using a saw with a blade guard that would stick at the worst moments, so I bought a new saw and the blade guard worked fine...lmao
I had leeches applied after op to keep blood flowing, when they had fed they would drop off and wander off around the ward...none of the nurses would pick them up, it was soooo funny. Surgeons dont like sewing fingers back on, blood vessels too small, prefer you cut the whole hand off, shall have to remember that.
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« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2014, 03:43:15 pm »

  Drink enough of it and I don't suppose you are bothered about either of them


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« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2014, 03:53:44 pm »

strange thing was....no pain and no blood... for about 2 hours the all hell broke loose lol
Luckily the saw was brand new and razor sharp, irony is for the previous year or so had been using a saw with a blade guard that would stick at the worst moments, so I bought a new saw and the blade guard worked fine...lmao
I had leeches applied after op to keep blood flowing, when they had fed they would drop off and wander off around the ward...none of the nurses would pick them up, it was soooo funny. Surgeons dont like sewing fingers back on, blood vessels too small, prefer you cut the whole hand off, shall have to remember that.
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when I was getting my new kitchen fitted 2 years ago , fella who done mine had no guard on his chopsaw, told him to get it sorted

reply was yes once I get the time, next day he came rushing in looking real pale with blood flowing from his forearm, he tripped and stumbled after he had cut a length...... he said no pain as well until we got into hospital and then it all kicked off while he was getting stitched up
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« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2014, 10:45:42 pm »

certainly not a drinker myself but keep hearing red wine is good for your blood pressure and your heart....... so why is that or pure myth ?

The magic chemical is 'resveratrol' (a derivative of resorcinol), and it works, but you'd die from alcohol poisoning long before you could get enough of the good stuff to benefit you. >:-o

Resorcinol is, traditionally, a waterproof glue for wood boatbuilding. Another derivative is 'hexylresorcinol', which was developed to replace carbolic acid, and is an active ingredient in Strepsils.

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« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2014, 07:58:48 am »

So bmi manor hospital Monday for me, no idea where it is but I have sat nav

around 35 miles from home and seeing consultant first thing Monday to talk about last 4-5 months
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« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2014, 08:35:54 am »

Mike...if you wont have a glass of RED ned. >>:-( each night........why not try a teaspoon of garlic each evening before you see the consultant QUACK?.............Derek  O0
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« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2014, 08:43:23 am »

i had an episode on saturday night that scared me, very fast breathing, sweating , difficultto breathe and pains in chest lasted for around 10 minutes, was with my kids and did not want to scare them so went upstairs.
 
cant help but think attack, this happened back in july as well , dont know what a heart attack feel like but weird sensation.... still got tingles in chest today
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« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2014, 09:08:03 am »

Mike
Any doctor would tell you to call for an ambulance NOW. DO IT. You know the number.
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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2014, 09:28:39 am »

Mike, can only speak for myself as everyone is different, but when I had heart attacks, I had severe chest pains, felt really sick, had pains down my arms and it felt like I had bent both my thumbs backwards (oh , those were the days when I had 2 thumbs lol). What you probably had was a panic attack, where you feel like crap and cant breathe, if it happens again, sit quietly and breathe in/out into a bag. rebreathing your own co2 will usually stop it quite quickly. Ask your doctor for a GTN spray, this opens all your blood vessels in case of heart probs, also makes you a bit wooly headed as it opens all your blood vessels, not just the ones to your heart. If you have restrictions this will help and you will feel better in no time, if it makes no difference its usually not your heart causing the trouble ( unless damage is severe, which I doubt is your case). My best advice is if in doubt call the ambulance, never wait, they dont mind if its a false alarm. I know its hard, but, stop worrying about it, even if you get the worst possible news, you can be put right. You may have to make changes, but believe me, you soon get used to it and life goes on. Proof : I'm 68 this week (you can all wish me happy birthday on the 19th), I'm feeling fine, I live my life to the full and am in rehearsals with a band to go back on stage. Remember I'm doing this after 3 massive heart attacks, quadrupple bypass surgery and trimming my hand up, so the future is bright...go for it. wishing you well.
sorry to preach, only trying to help you through this blip..if you need to talk , pm me for phone number.
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« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2014, 09:30:23 am »

Dave is correct...that's exactly how my first heart attack felt. It was only a minor one, thankfully...more of a precursor to what was coming along a couple of years later.


Again, as Dave says...call the number and get yourself checked out. Not later...not sometime...NOW.


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« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2014, 09:31:50 am »

Call NHS 24 now /doc/ambulance your chances are running out your family would want you at home for Christmas by not calling the medical services you will be worrying them more. Please ring now .
I did when my wife had chest pains 18 months ago and she is writeing her Christmas Cards now ,Best phone call ever .
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« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2014, 09:36:18 am »

Mike,

Don't waste time sharing your symptoms on here get yourself checked out immediately, it sound a lot more than a panic attack to me.

Too many people die because they think that if they wait a bit then it will all go away. Instead it's them that go away - for good!

I hope you are not reading this having taken Dave's advice.

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« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2014, 07:54:17 pm »

just back from hospital, I took advice and called 999

actually talked to cardio consultant in kettering who after doing triple test confirmed its not my heart, no damage done to heart..... but have to go back in 2 weeks for ct scan on arteries though

so think I need to settle down and take it easy........ thanks again for advice, I only read first one and was off
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« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2014, 08:22:06 pm »

And I bet they didn't suggest you were wasting their time!

Glad you are OK.

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