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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2014, 02:54:18 PM »

Thanks Footski, fingers crossed we will not lose this superb website


Regards


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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2014, 03:57:06 PM »

Hi Footski,
      Hopefully the site will be back soon as all I get is "Go Daddy" and do I want to buy the site, weird. Maybe I shouldn't have become a site supporter.
       Feliz Anio Nuevo,
               Cheers,
                   Peter.
P.S. We lived in Rojales Costa Blanca for 5 years.
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #52 on: December 29, 2014, 04:34:47 PM »

Peter,
We are down near Malaga and have been for nearly 16 years....lovely it is too.
I am assured by the Boss that all will be well with the site, but it appears to be taking longer than we expected.....I will send another message so watch this space...
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2014, 05:33:55 PM »

I for one am awaiting its return. If there is another potential site owner out there, I think they should look for a new host.

I had a chat forum for a couple of years with plenty of hosted photos with it, the whole package was only 60 a year. It used up plenty of bandwidth but I never incurred extra charges.

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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2014, 04:04:55 PM »

The message has now changed to one that I get when a web site has gone.
 
I hope not.
 
 
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2014, 05:44:41 PM »

I have had contact with the boss this morning and he assures me that work to re connect the site is nearing its end.....We just have to be a little patient.....


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Modeltugforum is back
« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2015, 11:33:45 AM »

hello all and a happy new year, the tug forum is now back on line .    Geo  :-)) :-)) :-))
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2015, 12:56:34 PM »

Site seems to be up now(ish)


http://modeltugforum.com/index.php


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Re: Modeltugforum is back
« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2015, 01:26:46 PM »

hello all and a happy new year, the tug forum is now back on line .    Geo  :-)) :-)) :-))
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It doesn't seem to be quite right as I have put a post on it and it was there one minute and gone the next  weird
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2015, 02:50:33 PM »

Hi All,
    Seems to be back to normal, just posted a topic.
         Cheers,
             Peter. :-))
 
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2015, 02:54:38 PM »


Me too but seems a bit sluggish....


( Barry, ask the administrator to ask the hosting company to optimise the memory allocation and check the cache handling. )

Martin   :-)

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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2015, 05:30:19 PM »

Yes guys we are back. A few gremlins to iron out, but at least we seem to be working well. Thanks for that information Martin. I will certainly pass it on immediately. :-))
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2015, 09:10:45 AM »

Seems to have gone again.

Problems with pictures, smilies, sometime there & sometimes not.

I can only imagine the work and cost that goes into running a forum but there does seem to be a real problem here.

Is a real solution likely?
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »

It's back again, again. I reckon they need to change service provider.
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2015, 08:15:04 PM »

I have been in touch with the boss, who is still trying to get things sorted. I have no idea how long this will take, or even if it is possible. I appreciate that people are getting fed up of what appears to be no action, but I will report any news as soon as I have it.... :embarrassed:
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2015, 08:56:26 PM »

Hi Barry
Thank's for the update I do check in daily

I do hope the boss can work thing's out as i am a big fan of the tug forum  :-))


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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2015, 09:30:55 PM »

If there anything I can do, PM me.

I have been in touch with the boss, who is still trying to get things sorted. I have no idea how long this will take, or even if it is possible. I appreciate that people are getting fed up of what appears to be no action, but I will report any news as soon as I have it.... :embarrassed:
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2015, 08:25:37 AM »

Thanks Martin.



I have just had reply from the boss. The problems are being worked on, but they are expensive and complex. He does not want to close the site down, for what could become an extended period while it gets sorted.
The plan is to, hopefully get things done properly in about a week, but you never know whether his efforts will work or not, so it could take a little longer.
Sorry I do not have more good news.
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2015, 09:47:55 AM »

I think the best solution to the problem would be to migrate the forum to a new host and close the old one down. If its taking the host so long to sort this problem out I would hazard a guess that a lot of what has been stored is unsalvageable,

However any good host would have a system of automatically backing up all content at least once a week but should be once a day in case of problems like this. I know from my time of running a forum I checked each evening manually to make sure that the auto backup had been done (belts and braces)

If the back up had been done its just a case of roll back to the back up date, ok you may lose a couple of days info, but it seems all the content of the forum has gone down the pan here.

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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2015, 10:52:39 AM »


You would hope so wouldn't you but web hosting companies have very little time for small player, like hobby forums and in my experience offer Zero help and advice unless you threaten to end the contract or attempt invoke penalty clause for downtime!  >:-o


However any good host would have a system of automatically backing up all content at least once a week but should be once a day in case of problems like this. I know from my time of running a forum I checked each evening manually to make sure that the auto backup had been done (belts and braces)
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2015, 11:16:22 AM »

So how does running a forum actually work?
Who owns what?
What is the new server that Mayhem is using - a computer in Martins office or something else?
If you move provider - whatever they do - can you take the old forum content with you?
If everything is on servers owned by the hosting company how much sorting out can you actually do?
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2015, 11:55:06 AM »

1. So how does running a forum actually work?
    Smoke & Mirrors. Red Bull, alcohol, 'comfort foods', coffee, lots of kicking things!

2. Who owns what?
    Whoever pays the bills! ( I "own" Mayhem in that I set it up and keep it running. )
    The forum 'owner' always own the forum "data" and it's up to the owner to download backups or pay the
     'provider' extra to do so.

3. What is the new server that Mayhem is using - a computer in Martins office or something else?
    To have a website on the internet, it needs to be on a "registered" computer / system that's permanently available and   
    connected to the Internet ! You also need a registered URL eg. www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk
    You then install the Forum software on that computer (over the internet) copy all the content and run your forum from there.

4. If you move provider - whatever they do - can you take the old forum content with you?
     Yes, the 'Forum content' always belongs to the "owner", like you own the content you send by email.
    ( Interestingly, anything you post on a forum, facebook, youtube, etc, etc is owned by that site hence the "Agreements"
       when you first sign up! )
    Moving large amounts of data between providers can be fraught with difficulties, not always compatible between systems
    and Very time consuming.
    Then there is moving the URL, the site  "name" to new
'provider' and all the issues with that!

5. If everything is on servers owned by the hosting company how much sorting out can you actually do?
    Depends on the contact you have with the 'provider', I have a "VPS" contract which means I can do quite a few technical things I
    can fool around with but it can get VERY complicated and most of it is way beyond me!
    There are at least 12 different systems and Apps involved with running the Mayhem site!!!
     A 'new' provider will promise you the earth to get you business but their enthusiasm tails off rather quickly once
    you've signed up!


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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2015, 01:47:27 PM »

Martin

Thank you for the explanation and your continuing enthusiasm. skill, sanity (possibly)  :-) .
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2015, 03:26:30 PM »

  Hi Martin,
       Re paragraph 5. sounds rather like Cameron, Clegg and Osbourne (promising the earth etc).
          Well done for all your own hard work and time.
                Cheers,
                     Peter. :-))
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Re: Model Tug forum?
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2015, 02:29:38 PM »

Well at long last, things seem to be back to normal on the Tug forum. All the old photos seem to be visible and posting new shots can be done quicker than before. If anyone sees any more problems, please drop me a line, so we can get it sorted out quickly.
Cheers and enjoy the site.
Many thanks to Martin for his help and advise...
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