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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #225 on: December 27, 2016, 06:42:01 PM »

If the preparation is good then I expect a better than average chance at getting it right first time. Cleanliness is next to godliness as they say:O)
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #226 on: December 27, 2016, 10:23:39 PM »

Well pictures are coming but a lot of work has happened in the last few days. All except the aft flying bridge, funnels, and walkways around the funnels have been stuck permanently in place. Steve has started to stick hand rails in position and he has got me to do some planking for him- said something about that I needed the practice! :o
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #227 on: December 27, 2016, 10:38:25 PM »


Pictures...













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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #228 on: December 28, 2016, 08:26:57 PM »

I say that man  :o :} How many acres of the stuff did Dreadnought and Prince George have between them and in 1:96th scale as well!!!!

Lovely bit of planking you have done there Mr Nick  :-)) Did you find the short sections easier to fit?

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #229 on: December 28, 2016, 09:32:10 PM »

Thanks Ian
Strangely enough it took longer and I think it was due to the shorter lengths- since they're only 3mm wider it took me all evening to do that little bit but in the same amount of time I managed to plank the Prince George's quarter deck! (Yes I've restarted her!!!)
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #230 on: December 28, 2016, 09:50:06 PM »

Yay! I shall keep an eye out for posts on that topic.

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #231 on: January 08, 2017, 03:13:18 PM »

Hi everyone


Last weekend Dad and I intended to give the train ferry a second voyage with the new MFA Torpedo 500 motors but this was the scene we saw!








So we went back to the workshed and continued with the build...
Hand stanchions by their hundred have been fitted- 210 so far only another 200 to go! Each railing is threaded with 0.33mm nickel silver rod. My addition has been the rigging of the mast supports using 0.5mm cord. And then Steve has had to paint the railings with the light grey- something he started to enjoy (ahem!). {-)
















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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #232 on: January 08, 2017, 03:19:44 PM »

So to bring everything up to date...
The delayed second voyage took place this morning at a now defrosted lake.The new motors are so much quieter and give a better battery life- we sailed for 1 1/2 hours and she kept going has if we had put in fresh batteries all the time and the motors were not even warm! So happy little bunnies we are! :-)














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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #233 on: January 08, 2017, 05:28:24 PM »




Good Gawd Nick and Steve, there used to be a time, not so long ago, when model 100 year-old Train Ferries were never seen on the water at lakes.


Now it's getting pretty commonplace and they appear to be breeding. :o


Your TF3 is looking great in it's natural element and must be a huge source of pride to you both. The inclusion of rigging etc is making her look quite businesslike and she looks proportionate to the "n"th degree.


T'other TF3  (dahn saarf) is nearly completed now. All materiels of war are now in situ on the car deck and we await the fitting of the ensign and crew members to make her complete and ready for the first (static) display in February 2017.


This display is at The Grange, Midhurst, West Sussex in February and she will be displayed among the Portsmouth Model Boat Display Team entries. i haven't got the date yet, but Robbie knows and he's just a 'phone call away.


During the course of the build we have collected a few images of WWI Train ferry models and reckon that two are fully representative of their originals. With permission I will post the images for you after clearing with suppliers.


Gold Medal to you guys therefore!!


All the very best for the New Year, and very well done.


Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #234 on: January 08, 2017, 05:41:52 PM »

Thanks Sandy and Robbie


I'm sure we'll all enjoy seeing the images, hope you had a good Christmas and New Year.
Can't wait to see your first static display pictures. I'm in the process of ordering some more railing material as Steve has managed to use all six 1m lengths we bought just before Christmas!
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #235 on: January 08, 2017, 06:05:46 PM »

What did Steve do with it all Nick? I bet he hid some behind a cupboard but you noticed and have ordered more railings!

She does look amazing chaps. Are you going to filth her deck up? Railmatch do a colour called 'Frame Dirt' which is a good browny-black and recreates brake dust well. I use it for tank tracks and priming smaller models as it is enamel and quite resilient.

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #236 on: January 08, 2017, 06:16:48 PM »

Hi Ian


Yes he's very good at hiding bits but economising with the bits he hasn't!


She will get a bit of weathering so she doesn't look too pristine but not too much that she becomes a rust bucket. Some of the hull paint has started to pick up some grime from the lake and when you compare the model to the photos they're very close in wear and tear and filth marks. I'll keep an eye open for 'frame dirt' as I like the sound of it to also put on my tanks tracks too.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #237 on: January 08, 2017, 06:47:46 PM »

Glad to hear the new motors are working so well, and quietly.
Aghast at the number of stanchions going in, but looking through the lovely photos I note that they are all turned ball type stanchions.  I hate to think of what the cost for all those must have been. 
All building up for the pièce de résistance - the inter-funnel lattice iron work.  That will really top off a most superb model.  Well done  :-))
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #238 on: January 08, 2017, 07:30:43 PM »

Hi Bob


Yes, let's just say that its several Birthday and Christmas presents rolled in to one! %%


We're really pleased with the new motors, she sails lovely both forward and in reverse and quietly.
Steve has been measuring up the funnel lattice work and needs some more smaller sized brass for the intercostals otherwise it'll look over scale when compared to other structures in the photos.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #239 on: January 08, 2017, 07:55:53 PM »


Looks great!   :-))

 What were the old motors? New?

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #240 on: January 08, 2017, 08:07:00 PM »

Hi Martin and thanks,


They were new items bought on ebay and roughly identified as 600 types but they are very very revvy and not suitable for this type of vessel. Probably more ideal for fast motor boats from the 1/24 scale to 1/12 scale range.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #241 on: January 08, 2017, 11:53:27 PM »

I love this model!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nick - Please pass on to your dad my appreciation of his (and your!!) work.....this model really is a credit to the both of you.  Can wait to see it again at Wicksteed.
 
Carl  :-))

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #242 on: January 09, 2017, 09:10:27 AM »

Hi Carl


Glad you like her, I'll pass on your kind comments to Steve. She is definitely coming on nicely now  :-))
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #243 on: January 09, 2017, 08:33:12 PM »

Thanks Sandy and Robbie


I'm sure we'll all enjoy seeing the images, hope you had a good Christmas and New Year.
Can't wait to see your first static display pictures. I'm in the process of ordering some more railing material as Steve has managed to use all six 1m lengths we bought just before Christmas!

Quite agree there, if followed to the letter when building, then cowl vents and guardrail stanchions (as well as portholes) come in large quantities. (We HAVE counted ours, and the cost has been quite prohibitive).

However, always the professionals, you and Steve are not stinting in these areas. It really is worth the time and effort.

Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #244 on: January 10, 2017, 03:13:42 PM »

Quite agree with you both, when you compare how much it cost to build the hull (surprisingly very little in materials) to the fittings available. Luckily we have Ron Dean not far away for the cowl vents and hand rails but we found some lovely 3D printed 1/72 scale guns but were rather put off the price for four- over $80!!!
You certainly have to think what you can afford to spend on buying items which would be rather difficult to scratch build in quantity and quality to what you can make.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #245 on: January 10, 2017, 04:31:47 PM »

Can't wait to see your first static display pictures. I'm in the process of ordering some more railing material as Steve has managed to use all six 1m lengths we bought just before Christmas!

Absolutely Nick, and just to satisfy myself (and without being called a "rivet counter"), I counted our stanchions, and TF3 requires 200 stanchions for her guardrails.

200 x 35p each, not to be sneezed at, but necessary to complete a good job................... as you guys are doing!

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #246 on: January 19, 2017, 07:42:50 PM »

As promised, some images of other WWI Train Ferry models:

The first is the French model of TF3 erroneously named as HMS DAFFODIL. A very nice build and well presented. Unfortunately the model builder, whilst scouring the web for dimensions, chose the wrong website to copy the length of the vessel which was actually 100 feet shorter than the real length. But he persevered with the shorter length and had to condense the superstructure as shown in the images.

Nevertheless, a nice clean representation of TF3.

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #247 on: January 19, 2017, 07:49:33 PM »

The dock is neat! You need to be a good helmsman to sail her into there.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #248 on: January 19, 2017, 08:02:03 PM »


The next pictures are from Ramsgate Museum in Kent, almost adjacent to where the Train Ferries operated from the Secret Port of Richborough.

The images were very kindly taken by Jack Warner of WNSF and were taken through a perspex covering.

The huge gun on a well-wagon was actually transported by one of the Train Ferries to France.

This is a very nice local waterline model. It clearly shows the link-span tower with which to to compensate for tidal movement and illustrates the docking arrangements for these "ground-breaking"? Ro-Ro ferries..

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #249 on: January 19, 2017, 08:33:03 PM »


Next the beautiful waterline setup, post WWI, in Antwerp museum.

Images supplied by Tony, ("MerchantOldSalt" from WNSF).

By this time some of the Train Ferries were dispersed to civilian shipping companies and this diorama possibly shows a Train Ferry in Great Western Train Ferries Ltd livery circa 1923.

These three images certainly serve to illustrate the organisation of the embarkation and disembarkation of the rail cargo back 100 years ago. Note that the seaboard jetty is funnelled inward to guide the ferry to dock centrally.

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