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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2016, 07:07:21 PM »

Solution:


Right click on image ......... Select "Open image in new tab" ......... open image from tool bar ........ and hey presto!, image is automatically turned through 180 degrees. (For steam PC's only I presume). :embarrassed:


Great "chippying" skills evident, a masterpiece in the making.


Love the anchor hawse pipe. Is it a continuous tube through the ships side to the foc's'le deck?


Sandy.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2016, 08:03:20 PM »

And now; with permission; a quick mention of our (myself and Robbie Robertson's) TF3 build.

We were lucky to have an almost dimensionally perfect hull in fibreglass with which to start. Scale 1:72 and ideal for H-00. This had been moulded by Robbie some twenty years ago for building a pyrotechnic merchant fleet to be used in WWII pyro displays by the Portsmouth Model Boat Display Team.

Pictured is the hull prior to starting.

Sandy (and Robbie).
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2016, 09:26:36 PM »

I thought he had a crick in his neck with stooping over so much and wanted to work so he was looking up, so nailed the base to the ceiling.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2016, 02:33:22 PM »

Hi Sandy


I can see why you chose the TF3, that hull is amazingly close, just some minor modifications and it matches perfectly, love to see some more pictures.
Dads been thinking about the flying bridge supports and has decided to use aluminium sheet to represent them. Since all eight supports are identical he will make them all together using our new pillar drill to make the lightening holes.


I took the pictures with my iPhone, I shall have to remember which way is up!
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2016, 08:23:00 PM »

That hull has loads of potential for doing a train ferry Sandy. Re my Usertname, I am knoiwn as 'Diddytanksian'on a wargames forum as I design 1:300th scale AFVs and other equipment that are naturally diddy, and so the name was coined. Logically keeping to the theme I chose Ballastanksian here, and if I ever join an RC Lorry/Transport forum, I would choose 'Dieseltanksian'.

Ta da:O) Anyhow, back to all things exciting and Trainferryist; Your father's prgress is interesting Nick. I agree that the hawse pipes look top.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2016, 07:11:03 PM »


Thanks guys, not a bad hull shape.

Image taken pre-Christmas showing how the hull suits the project.

Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2016, 09:30:00 PM »

Crikey, a whole fleet of train ferries are on the slips.

Looking good.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2016, 05:21:10 PM »

That looks fantastic! :-))
Just spoken to Dad and he is making the rudders from brass at the moment. He has plated in one side of the hull and wants a rest from continuous plating so the rudders were the next logical move. He has measured up the length of the prop shafts so he can ordered a set from SHG.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2016, 08:34:08 PM »

Crikey, a whole fleet of train ferries are on the slips.

Looking good.

Ian and Nick,

I have it on good authority that ANOTHER WWI Train Ferry has been built recently on the South Coast.

Robbie and I are having a mini celebration as we've just fitted the funnels and associated braces and transverse gantry. This really makes the model readily identifiable as a train ferry, as it is one of the many defining features.

Image tomorrow if you will permit. :}

Looking forward to seeing Dad's hull plating. If his previous work is anything to go by, then it's going to be excellent.

Regards and have a great holiday weekend.

Sandy.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2016, 09:16:25 PM »

Lots of piccies chaps. They are interesting vessels and very specialist with it.

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2016, 04:55:56 PM »


By way of an Easter present Nick and Co., some images of the Portsmouth area TF3 as she is today, Good Friday 2016.

Sandy and Robbie.

PS.  Images were not good enough. Have removed and will post again with greater definition.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2016, 05:09:52 PM »

Second attempt:
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2016, 05:21:05 PM »

Ooh, that's an attractive model Sandy. What is the model behind her covered in cellophane?
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2016, 08:02:50 PM »


HMS RODNEY Ian, remote controlled in 1:72 scale and measuring almost 10'.

Just like Nick's Dad, build 'em big. :-))

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #89 on: March 26, 2016, 08:15:41 PM »

Good point, how is your Dad doing with his Nick????
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2016, 09:15:37 PM »

Good point, how is your Dad doing with his Nick????


Hiya just been a little busy sorting out club matters and the mayhem show! :-))


Pictures are coming tomorrow of the hull plating, deck plating, cowl venting, and ruddering! A lot of 'ings'!
It's looking quite good but don't tell Dad that, he'll never get his head through the door!


All I can say Sandy and Robbie is- WOW, she really looks the part, are all your builds 1/72 scale? You've both done amazing things with your hull. Look forward to some more pictures when you're ready.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2016, 12:33:59 PM »


Thanks Nick, for your kind comment. Robbie and I mainly build in 1:72 scale, in Robbie's case, for some thirty odd years now, and for me, comparatively a beginner, for ten years or so. Age onset; poor eyesight and wobbly hands, requires us to build bigger. :embarrassed:

Really looking forward to seeing Dad's progress on the "ings", as you amusingly describe them. Plating the hull is a skill in itself and we would appreciate seeing these skills.

It's really good to see this vessel recreated in triplicate just prior to the centenary anniversary of her launch in 1917.

One of the members of our website (World Naval Ships Forums) is currently building Royal Navy Ambulance Train N04 and coincidentally lives in Ramsgate, not far from the WWI emergency port of Richborough, where the train ferries plied their trade.

Kind regards,

Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2016, 05:28:45 PM »

Hi everyone

The pictures of the 'ings' so far.
I admire yours and Robbie's work, the only other model I'm building in 1/72 is HMS Protector circa 1967.

















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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2016, 07:53:54 PM »


Nick, I'm in awe of another "ing" on your model. :embarrassed: This time it's the chippy-"ing" skills; straight lines on all of the joins and all parallel.  Give your Dad a BRAVO ZULU (RN parlance for WELL DONE). :-)) He certainly has an eye for detail and a pretty evident confidence as well.

TWO rudders eh? We had to suffice with ONE centreline rudder due to the construction of the hull that we used. There really wasn't enough headroom to fit two because of the rake of the stern counter. Servo's and steering rods just wouldn't fit in such a cramped space. So we were forced to sacrifice that detail and wonder how she will handle when under way.

I knew HMS PROTECTOR well in my time in the RN; 1957 - 1982. I think she was originally a fast net layer and remained in ships side grey through her transformation, as opposed to her successor the "Red Plum". She is a superb hull shape and will make a fine model.

Thanks for the images Nick, it's surprising the different approaches used in building the same model.

Kind regards,

Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2016, 07:59:46 PM »

Thanks Sandy, message passed on :-))


It's one of the few advantages to scratch building a hull that you can put in whatever you need however as I'm sure you know the other side (not going to call it disadvantages) is the time taken.


Today Steve has been detailing the area beneath the forecastle with railway buffers, capstans and supporting poles. With that bit finished he has restarted the plating on the hull.


The Protector was indeed originally a fast net layer but she was torpedoed in WW2 and limped back to India where she remained waiting for replacement turbines. After the war she returned home and converted in to the vessel you knew. The hull is a challenge but I've just got some plating to do before I can go mad with the details!
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2016, 08:21:49 PM »

What will really bring her detail quality out is the things like ballast and the grot that must have accumulated amongst the tracks. The carpentary is first class.

Lovely work Steve, like a good television series, I await the next episode with glee.

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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2016, 08:40:20 PM »

.............Lovely work Steve, like a good television series, I await the next episode with glee.

Hear hear from here. :D ;)

Sandy and Robbie.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #97 on: April 04, 2016, 01:51:46 PM »

Just in case it helps, there was a company doing OO drawings , I think the name was "Skinley" and they did an OO drawing of the WW1 trainferry. I know because I bought a copy back in the 1970's.  It worked out about 5 feet long, and no I never got it built and sadly the drawing is long gone.
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2016, 12:31:09 PM »

Episode 6: the photos of the build continue whilst I'm away! :-))


Dad is making all the flying bridge and superstructure supports- the new pillar drill is making short work of the lightening holes. It has taken him over 5 hours to make the rear structure and still need to detail it with the mast base and planking. He did consider making each one from either brass or aluminium sheet but the soldering and gluing would have been very difficult to sort out and make look scale. Plus he did attempt to make one from aluminium but it took so long to get the shape (and to be strong enough) that he resorted to a material that is easier to work with- 1/16th marine ply.

















BTW. Sandy, I realised where I had seen your work before on your TF3- love the work as Bodgit and Bodgit!
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Re: Admiralty Train Ferry Number 3
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2016, 02:09:19 PM »

Your Dad's build is really coming on superbly.  Love all the support beam details.
It is so refreshing to see something so unusual being modelled.  I am sure similar skills may also go into the plethora of tugs that over 50% love building, but at least you will end up with a truly unique vessel and be unlikely to see masses of the same on the water. 

Can't wait for the next instalment !!!!
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