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Bob K

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Ships Boats Covers
« on: January 01, 2015, 02:31:13 pm »

A question for you.  I am looking for suitable materials / techniques for producing covers for ships boats as secured at sea.  Previously I have fully detailed lifeboat interiors, but for this build want to show them with rain covers.

I could heat-mould them from thin Plasticard, or stretch silk over a former and treat with PVA adhesive.  Getting the tied-down edges looking realistic could be tricky.  Davit hung boats of 85 to 130 mm in length, probably from Quaycraft.

Any ideas ?
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Re: Ships Boats Covers as used on my Fairmount
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 03:20:03 pm »

Well here goes again this was cotton material from the local material shop.
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 03:39:14 pm »

Solartex as used for covering model aircraft.
Lightweight nylon fabric (------------do----------------) with a coat or two of clear dope.
I think I used an old cotton hankie for the main hold cover on my little Puffer. This was glued on and sealed with thinned PVA glue.
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 03:44:34 pm »

There was a great way shown on a build on here not many moons ago
Cant seem to find it though.
Think it were a tug build.


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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 03:52:37 pm »

Ned.  I think you may be referring to that super build of RMT Enigma.  I believe he used 'an old duster'.  They do look good though.  Good suggestions DM.
I wanted to replicate the effect of a tarpaulin cover of that period, with tie-down lashing ropes.
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 06:35:08 pm »

That's what i used D M  worked for me
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 09:40:29 pm »

Hi Bob, I have used hand wipes wetted with dilute pvu. They are very workable, you can fold them to
Simulate tarp joints and create creases. Brilliant for draping over deck drums boxes etc and accept
Paint very well.
Bob check out the picks on my post Thames Costal Barge.


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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 10:06:01 pm »

Now that is a novel idea John.  I may do some experiments with those.
At scale the tarpaulin becomes very thin, and not easy to make natural looking.
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2015, 01:38:40 am »

I wonder if you could use large size shrink tube,of the type used for fishing rod handles? Cut down the centre and opened up would give you a reasonable size.All you would need to do then would be to place it over the article you need to cover,and gently heat it with a hairdryer,until it tightens to the amount you want? I daresay you could join two or more pieces together to give you a larger piece?
Easily obtainable from sea angling shops etc?
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 07:52:42 am »

Had a friend that did canvas covers for lifeboats on his destroyer.
Nice little seams across from one side to the other.
When I asked how he did the coverings, he replied, "Masking Tape".  :o
He put a small ridge board across from bow to stern of the boat, and then
stretched masking tape over and across to either side of the boat, then trimmed
with a sharp hobby knife. And finished with some thin CA on a disposable brush.


It was shockingly good look.  :-))

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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2015, 08:24:32 am »

I have a friend who uses some paper TOILETS ( NINE )
 he dares the paper and gives a shape
he sprays(pulverizes) some very liquid acrylic paint three times
he shapes a little every time

The toilet paper does not have to have of relief motives

It is very realistic because the fiber is very fine
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2015, 09:31:22 am »

I did hatch covers using bits of cotton material, similar, but not the same as boat covers, using the method shown in Reply #20-22 here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2716.msg26949.html#msg26949
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2015, 11:01:10 am »

Hi Bob
I have used the foil cover that is inside tubs of "lurpak spreadable" to simulate canvas lifeboat covers - it has a faint texture and when thoroughly de-buttered it takes paints ok.
I superglue an oversize piece onto the boat (along a former on the centreline first, then the edges after working the cover to make it look as natural as I can) then trim excess off with sharp scalpel. I paint in situ.

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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2015, 12:51:29 pm »

A lot a really great ideas.  Thank you.
I am going to be busy trying these out.   :-))
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Re: Ships Boats Covers
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2015, 03:40:40 pm »

Hi Bob here's another way of doing the covers.I use cling film, just stretch the film
over the life boat,trim with scalpel, then under coat.The ones I made for THV BEACON
still as good as the day I made them.        8)
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