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St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« on: January 12, 2015, 10:54:55 PM »

Hello Folks,
I'm starting the build of this vessel for a friend who's dad served aboard her in the 1940's. The full size vessel is displayed at the Vancouver BC Maritine Museum.
This is a Billings kit and will be build mostly of wood, plank on bulkhead.  I will be adding more detail for static display purpose.   Should be a fun build and I hope you all will enjoy it as much as I.
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Dennis Lancaster
Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 11:18:15 PM »

Nice to see you're keeping busy Dennis - I always enjoy your builds - and this is one I've not seen before so the interest is there already. :-))
 
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2015, 01:09:01 AM »

Thank you Ray. This should be a fun build and one where lots more detail can easily be added.  There is a ton of info as the actual ship is located very close to where I live.  Its going to take some time, as I'm in no hurry to rush this build.

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Dennis
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2015, 11:45:34 PM »

Looking forward to this build. I have the kit myself. This may provide the impetus for me to get going on it.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 03:02:36 AM »

Hi John,  it seems to be a very popular kit.  Many builds have been documented.  I intend to go beyond the kit with detail, so I hope folks will find this build interesting.  Today, I started mounting bulkheads to the false keel.  Plans call for the hull to built in two halves.  I'm not so sure I will do it that way, as all of my plank on bulkhead builds have been built as a whole.  I will take things to a certain point and then join the halves before full planking begins.  I am not happy with the quality of the wood for planking provided in the kit, so probably will go for basswood and walnut strips. Scale lends towards thinner width of planks as well.  Its all in personal preference and what a builder chooses to do.  The laser cut sheets are top notch and its very easy to release the parts.
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Dennis
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 05:49:14 PM »

I started this kit last year with the intention of building a review model but time ran out and I have put it to one side for the moment. I do agree that it is difficult to plank neatly, partly because of the material but also because of the tight bends needed. I have also seen the original ship in Vancouver and have a set of photos. If I continue with it then I will probably initially finish off the hull with filler in the many gaps and then represent the planking by cartridge paper strips applied at the correct scale to simulate it, not forgetting that the forepart of the vessel was reinforced with an additional layer of planking for ice protection - see photo.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 08:29:45 PM »

Hi Colin,  true about the planking.... better material will help that as well as soaking the planks prior.  Its also important to fair the bulkhead edges to max the surface area that the planks will land on.  As the planks approach the bow, they will have to take a good taper and I can see some "stealers" being inserted both stern and bow.... you are correct about the double planks towards the bow.  She was also sheathed with metal plates near the bow as well as metal covering the bow stem.  Guess she was used as an "ice breaker" in the day.  Lots to do and an interesting subject to build.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Artic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 02:28:15 AM »

Planking begins.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 12:15:04 AM »

Planking slowly and steady.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 02:36:06 AM »

Planking slowly and steady.
Dennis

  Planking looking good. So did you decide to go with a different material for the planking than that provided?

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 03:37:54 AM »

Thks John,  Yes... I went with Bass Wood from my local hobby shop.  Kit supplied what I think is "Lime Wood"...6mm wide by 2mm thick, wild in the grain and prone to splitting.  The Bass Wood I used is 3mm wide by 1.5mm thick.  Which appears to be closer to scale. With the exception of the first 2 rows of planks from the gunnels down, I am laying planks at different lengths which gives varying butt joins on the hull, much like the actual ship was planked.  I will also be double planking the forward section (I need to varify this with the actual vessel) of the hull as well as add metal sheathing near the bow and on the stem.  She was an ice crusher to a degree.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015, 03:42:30 AM »

I will add that I am planning on visiting the Vancouver Maritime Museum Jan. 30th,  where the actual St. Roch is under cover, out of the water.  You can go aboard and they do allow pictures, so I will do some documenting of my own.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 04:12:47 AM »

I will add that I am planning on visiting the Vancouver Maritime Museum Jan. 30th,  where the actual St. Roch is under cover, out of the water.  You can go aboard and they do allow pictures, so I will do some documenting of my own.

Cheers,
Dennis

I visited the Vancouver museum a few years ago. hat's where I picked up my kit for the model.I've got shots of it on slides somewhere. I should scrounge them out. It'll be good to see some more detail shots of it however. there is a book out about the St.Roche and her crew through the NW passage. I've got a copy of it. Interesting reading.

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2015, 10:58:37 PM »

Got bored with the planking, so went ahead and started on the Pilot House.  Found some old parts from previous builds and through them inside for fun.. not to scale... but what the heck.. no one can see them after its all closed in.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 11:00:27 PM »

closed it all in and threw some primer on and just laid it there on the subdeck.... it will go much higher when the lower cabin is built.. this just gives you an idea of scale, etc.  See, you can't see inside!
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2015, 11:28:49 PM »

Its a slow process with the St. Roch.  Main Salon installed today, hull planking is about half way done.  This Billings kit is horrible and I take it as a challenge to use my modeling skills to get out a half way decent model.  It will be fine.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2015, 04:53:27 AM »

Pilot house is temporarily on there to see how she looks.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2015, 04:42:29 AM »

A true ice breaker, one has to attach metal plates at the bow.  I solved this problem by using self adhesive lables that I cut to size and applied my wife's  star wheel from her sewing kit and rolled rivet heads on the back side, removed the protective paper and stuck the labels on to the hull with a rub stick and some fast clue to make sure it will stay.  It does look better after painting and will work fine.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2015, 10:02:57 PM »

Getting color on.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2015, 03:21:16 AM »

Really looking the part.
Like the sticky label idea  O0

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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2015, 08:23:03 PM »

Slow process on the Roch.... went to visit the actual ship and discovered she is painted Grey, so had to repaint the hull.. took several coats and was a pain.  Boy, the kit really sucks for accuracy of detail.  Not worth it in my books.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2015, 11:07:15 PM »

more details.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2015, 11:48:30 PM »

You've got her coming to life there Dennis - nice and easy does it - you're getting there... :-))
 
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 09:42:33 PM »

Even more detail.  Haven't really got to the stern much yet.  Tons of detail, a very interesting model to look at I think.
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Re: St. Roch Canadian Arctic Patrol Ship Static Build
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2015, 10:16:03 PM »

You have made a superb job of what is rather an indifferent quality kit. Looks just like the original in the museum.

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