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James Braidwood Fireboat
« on: January 19, 2015, 09:39:20 PM »

Does anyone know where I can get plans or photos of the James Braidwood (London Fireboat)?
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2015, 09:53:04 PM »

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2015, 11:28:00 PM »

You will be lucky if you do, I have been after it for about 6 years.. :}

To date I have only ever seen this on display once and that was at the 2014 Warwick show.

I spoke to Jotika and was told that only about 50 were produced, I have one, unbuilt and without any fittings   :} they looked for the plans but could not find them  %%

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,13709.msg131023.html#msg131023

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2015, 10:27:57 AM »

does have a look of the aerokit crash tender about it/
 built in 1939 by samuel white at cowes.   closed in 1981  did they save their plans or did they go in the fire..??
 what is the yank coy building from plans or plagiarizing a kit  ??
 
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2015, 10:37:38 AM »

The one at the Warwick Show is better than the so called "museum quality" one shown on the American site.
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2015, 08:03:17 PM »

There is a model of the vessel in the Science Museum but they dont have the plans. Nor the National Maritime Museum.
I have also tried the person who archives the other plans of vessels made by Samuel White.
The London Transport Museum and London Fire Brigade have not responded to my requests for information.


Is there anywhere else worth trying?
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 02:20:08 PM »

There is a model of the vessel in the Science Museum but they dont have the plans. Nor the National Maritime Museum.
I have also tried the person who archives the other plans of vessels made by Samuel White.
The London Transport Museum and London Fire Brigade have not responded to my requests for information.


Is there anywhere else worth trying?
I would Brass neck it and try the American coy that is offering the built model see if they have plans as they have to be building from some kind of data.  Just tell them a fanny storey that you have got hold of an old kit of E-bay which is out of production but is missing the plans and to your chagrin the coy that used to make it cant help you either.   As they old saying goes if ye don`t ask  ye don`t get.     
frank   O0
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 01:15:17 PM »

Does anyone know where I can get plans or photos of the James Braidwood (London Fireboat)?

Small world, we recently completed a set of crew for this very boat for an overseas modeller.  He has plans and photographs. Please contact us direct.
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 01:34:27 PM »

Well thats 4 we now know of.. :-))   46 to go !!

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 04:22:24 PM »

I built the original one for Frank Hinchliffe only 45 to go....Bill....
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2015, 05:53:00 PM »

I built the original one for Frank Hinchliffe only 45 to go....Bill....

Any Pictures of yours Bill ?.

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 06:23:08 PM »

Sorry never took any pics passed the boat to Frank on completion and only saw it on box lids after that...Bill....
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2015, 07:48:52 PM »

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 08:57:24 PM »

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 01:10:47 PM »

Hi all,


I have the plans for the Braidwood in soft copy and am willing to send them on.  I also have a lot of pictures and even the model to build when I get around to it (45 to go).  I am the overseas modeller mentioned in this thread by Adrians Figures.  Two scratch built models of the Braidwood can be seen in the London Fire Brigade Museum which I visited a few years ago and they were very accommodating.  I also contacted the Model Museum in Greenwich and spoke to a guy who was very helpful and was going to try and get me the plans of the real Braidwood but for some reason he disappeared on me over the emails etc.  Willing to share anything I have on the Braidwood with anyone who wants it.  Clearly I a live and work in Asia so can only do this by email etc.  For information I also contacted the company in America that built this model but can assure you they wanted a lot of money to assist me with my project.  Not willing to share plans but were willing to complete my model for a ridiculous price of $2k in my opinion.  Contact me if you would like the plans.  Thanks Kev
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 01:17:01 PM »

Having looked at the Warwick show version of his model is nearly bang on to the plans apart from the side rails etc which can be seen in the American version of this model.  As an aside I am looking for someone who can make the stanchions for me which are 70mm tall.  If anyone can help with that I would love to hear from them.
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 01:22:52 PM »

Sorry all lastly on this subject if anyone has a kit they want to sell I am willing to buy it for a decent price also.  I have a complete kit and some spare fittings but I am a novice builder so am bound to make a few mistakes.  I have wanted build this model for a long time, not sure why, it is a simple but very nice model in my opinion.  If anyone wants to see one let me know.  I have a uk postal address so it is easy to get it to me.  Kev
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 01:35:36 PM »

Hi Kev
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2015, 08:56:45 PM »

I have today received some information on the James Braidwood from the London Fire Brigade.
Evidently it was built at the same time as a batch of pinnaces for the Royal Navy and was most certainly diverted from this batch for conversion into a Fire Boat to reinforce the London fire force for the expected war. This should mean that it should share the same lines as the pinnace.


In addition the vessel turned out to be a "wet boat" and acquired an Navel type rotating glass windscreen wiper in its port side front windscreen fairly soon after manufacture.
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2015, 09:39:54 PM »

paddleduck.....wet boat or dry boat in the rain......there is certainly a rotating clearview in the 1950 build by LC Stainiforth  :-)) ....

Even at 5 knots in an OZ shower you are running blind without one  O0 ......Derek
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2015, 04:46:09 AM »

Hi all,


I have three pictures of the actual boat on the Thames one has a wet or clear view on it, the other does and the last one is side on so can't tell.  Off the there Braidwood's models I photographed in the LFB Museum two have and one doesn't.   The plans of the model I have do not show it but the plans of the actual boat I have do.  Cheers Kev
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2015, 07:51:06 AM »

Here are a couple of pictures of the Braidwood on the Thames for your information
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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2015, 08:37:44 AM »

Great photos KiwiKev, thanks for sharing.

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Re: James Braidwood Fireboat
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2015, 04:30:45 PM »

Hi Kev,


The last photo looks like the vessel has had its wheel house extended?


How can I obtain a copy of the plans?

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