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Colin Archer Help
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:31:55 PM »

I have a Colin Archer  the bigger one  several issues like no winch a motor  that  looks like a Magnet with  a coil of wire beneath and a speed controller that   makes Bobs board look modern .However for the moment my initial  help is needed on the top mast    I have the sail/ Gaff?but  lack the   short mast/boom? that goes with it
Can anyone please show a Pic or drawing with sizes and how this  sail is connected kept simple please
Thanks
Jay
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 08:56:46 PM »

These might help

http://www.eos1932.com/home-english/picture-gallery/

There is also a  site with a closer picture of the blocks and reeving at the top of the mast . De Classic Zeiler , it appears as a PDF.

hope this helps
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2015, 10:26:43 PM »

 Thanks  but too complicated for me need to see as a model
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2015, 04:39:22 AM »

...  help is needed on the top mast    I have the sail/ Gaff?but  lack the   short mast/boom? that goes with it
Can anyone please show a Pic or drawing with sizes and how this  sail is connected kept simple please...


Hi Jay,
Can you give us a little more detail of what you want to connect?


How the sail is tied onto the gaff boom?
How the sail and gaff boom are attached to the top mast?


In the meantime, here are a couple of links that might help.
http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Sail/Eric.html
http://www.mostsailboats.org/1971-colin-archer-type-gaff-rigged-ketch/
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2015, 07:30:53 PM »

Hi Tiger thanks thats the kind of photo I need  but detailing  how the  thin bit o stick is attached to the main mast . I have the sail and it has the rings fitted would apreciate the spar dimensions and diameter . I believe  they are sometimes sailed without that sail fitted . As I'll have to try her on the water without a winch first  might be the way to go
Jay
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2015, 08:51:19 PM »

Ah the gaff top sail and fittings...

http://www.thecheappages.com/boat/cob/COB_sea-boat.html

This should see you right

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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 12:16:37 AM »

Hi Jay


The more I look at it, the more that this topsail looks like its a sliding gunter rig, it is attached to a spar rather than a top mast. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can chime in.If you google [gunter rig] you will find more.

I also wish to ask about the model of Colin Archer you have.
Is this a static model that you are converting?
Is this some working model kit?
Is this scratch build? and if so, what is your prototype (some other model/photos of model/photos of original boat)?
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 12:43:44 AM »

If you do a google image search for Colin Archer, you will drag up these images, and maybe more.
The second one is a book cover, the book may be obtainable through your local library.


Looking at the rigging plan.
Item 14 looks like it might be an uphaul for the spar (looks more and more like a spar and not a top mast).
Item 15 is an outhaul


I have also started another thread asking for some translation, here http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=50412.new#new


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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 05:01:57 PM »

It is the Billings Colin Archer 414 and for sailing not built by me  getting a ready to run out the box is  a challenge enough for me .   As there were several posts about the archer but few if any pics I thought someone somewhere might have a close upof the  section in question  Thanks again for your assistance here is a pic  without the  sail in question
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Re: Colin Archer Help
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 05:20:21 PM »

Whatever the outcome, make sure the sail is easily detachable .
In any sort of breeze the CA will be overcanvassed with it.
I've seen sails like this lashed to the spars and almost impossible
to detach at the lake.
There is a clue in the book cover illustration.

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