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6 Metre restoration
« on: April 04, 2015, 09:05:40 AM »

Hi all,
New here but into model boats for 40 years, still none the wiser! I'm currently restoring a 6 metre pond yacht built in the 1930s by my grandfather and sailed by my mother when sh was 10 years old, now 85! I'm at the rubbing down stage on the hull and looking for fittings and sails. I have had a quote for sails (cotton ) at 310.00 will a lead time of 8 months😝
I am keeping a blog thing , so fell free to look and if you can help me in my very big challenge.

Posting soon.
Neil.
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www.pondyacht.blogspot.co.uk
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2015, 11:47:38 AM »

Welcome to the madhouse...insanity is a necessary part of membership.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2015, 01:52:01 PM »

Welcome to Mayhem.  What a gorgeous looking yacht. Have you tried Nylet for your sails & fittings? Their web site is not the easiest to follow but try phoning as they are very helpful.


http://www.nylet.co.uk/
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2015, 08:30:08 AM »

Thanks Knoby, it was Nylet that quoted for the sails at 310.00 with an 8 month delivery time which is ok, so will go with that, it gives me plenty time to do the hull.
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Re: 6 Metre restoration
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2015, 02:17:47 PM »

Hello Neil

I would try   www.housemartinsails.co.uk
Martin Roberts is a real nice, help full guy.
Both he and his wife are past champions at yachting.
They will know what you require !!!!!.

John.  :-))
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2015, 03:05:22 PM »

Thanks John , Iv'e sent Andrea an e mail, so hoping for a good quote and some advice!
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2015, 04:23:51 PM »

Looking at its age, it not only predates radio, it probably predates vane steering as well, meaning it was probably Braine steered.  Is it going to be restored to original, or updated with, say, radio?  In practical terms, there are many more places where a radio yacht can be sailed.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2015, 04:38:41 PM »

Hi, Malcolm, I will be installing radio with a Hitec Winch. I am trying to keep it as original as possible but will be fibre glass clothing ( skinning )the lower hull.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2015, 06:28:27 AM »

Very nice job you're doing  Nellybob. I think the gold stripes really add a touch of class to a fantastic choice of colour, and the deck is superb. Did you buy the lettering for the name, if so how did you manage to exactly match the hull paint? And if not how did you do such a neat job. I look forward to seeing it finished. Well done. U2
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2015, 09:05:45 AM »

Hi,Unsinkable 2, thanks for the kind words. The hull green does not exactly match the green of the name, but a man running for his life wouldn't notice {-)
I got the name transfer from http://www.ebay.ie/itm/281595542896  two names were only 2.49, the postage is free for UK.The transfer is really good quality and easy to apply with full instructions.They only do one size thou which was fine for what I needed.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2015, 05:36:07 PM »

A superb restoration for which you can be proud. Congratulations on a fine job O0.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2015, 07:55:36 PM »

Hey nellybob I checked out the lettering on ebay, they are available in different sizes you just have to let them know, but get this, only 2-49 for two stickers and 7-50 postage if I wanted them posting to france..... ha ha ha ha  {-) If I did want some I would ask my mum to send them as I believe its free post to the uk. They must put them in gold envelopes for Europe....... U2
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2015, 10:31:30 PM »

Hi, Thanks Nemo, you might have noticed from My blog I mentioned My mother ( Grace ) helped her dad sail the yacht in the late 30s,aged 10. As soon as it's sea worthy she will be skippering it again but with RC. She's 85 now and keen to get sailing again. :police: 


Unsinkable , thanks for noticing you get more sizes for the vinyl names, pity about that postage cost to France!  :((
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2015, 08:19:50 AM »

Hi guys, can anyone help me with the measurements for a standard suit of sails for My yacht , Grace. I have some measurements but Graham Bantock needs more measurements. I just want something that will look period and work well , I won't be racing her.
I know the mast hight, 63 inches and the boom length is 32 inches. 

The main luff is 57 inches,the roach is 62 inches ,foot 24 inches the head sail luff is 53 inches  leech 49 inches.I do not know how to work out the rest.I have attached a file showing all measurements I need. Does anyone have a vintage 6 metre who can help. :-X
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 10:34:39 AM »

Hi Nellybob
you should get in touch with the Vintage Model Yacht Group http://www.vmyg.org.uk/ as they will have the knowledge you need.
From looking at the old 6m yachts at Dundee the sail shape is much simpler than you show The leading edge of the sail is straight as they were clipped to a wire at the rear of the mast and tightened with a halyard at the top. The foot of the sail also tended to be straight without any curve.
Ideally you should be getting the new sails made from linen instead of the new sail materials. the new materials are much less porous to the wind and tend to  blow over more easily.
If you look at some of the old photos on our club history page http://www.modelboating.co.uk/index.php/club-history it might help you with some ideas.

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2015, 10:44:26 AM »

You need to look at low aspect sails for that period.


The ones you have shown are the modern High Aspect ratio.
Nylet do a lot of period sails in the right material for the period.


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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2015, 02:00:58 PM »

Sails have arrived, sorted thanks to Rod of Rod Carr Sails,USA.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 02:09:46 PM »

 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Very nice Neil

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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 02:16:54 PM »

Thanks, poor grace hasn't had sails since the outbreak of World War 2!!
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 02:18:04 PM »

 :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Very nice Neil

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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2015, 10:26:47 PM »

Lovely job :-)) next photo on the water  O0   U2
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 11:00:05 PM »

You bet! and skippered by my mother, Grace who sailed "Grace" 75 years ago with her father.My mother now 85,  can't wait to sail "Grace"  again.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2015, 06:37:30 AM »

Hey Nellybob I saw the black and white photos on your other thread and for a second or two I thought that it was the full size that you copied...... Really nice deck........ Fantastic... U2
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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2015, 05:17:07 PM »

That looks great  :-)) I have always wanted a nice sail boat, ever since I was a kid to join all the men at Southampton boating lake, but unfortunately the council built lake is now in a very bad condition.

WE need to restore this lake and use it I am going to contact the Council to see what they can do for us.
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2015, 06:04:28 PM »

You will need a lot of like minded guys to contact  the
Council members that they have voted in.
Money is in short supply so the offer to help in
refurbishment will go a long way.
Get the local press involved and radio/tv.
Drag out old photos from the archives with guys
sailing yachts on the lake.
These always look good as the collar, tie, sports jacket
was de rigueur in those days .
Research funding that is available sometimes but not
always advertised.
Keep pushing.

Best of luck
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