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merseyferry

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« on: May 18, 2015, 07:27:39 AM »

hello all  does anyone know of another liquid to put inside a 6v graupner smokeunit that makes smoke ,some1 said baby oil but that did not work well..the price for a 10ml of the real stuff is a bit steep 9quid steep lol
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Re: smoke
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2015, 09:57:05 AM »

This is the same stuff; it's just in the manufacturer's bottle instead. Still not cheap, but not nearly a pound per millilitre. http://www.modelmasters.co.uk/acatalog/SEU105.html
You can also get it in 250ml and even 1L sizes on E-Bay - mainly from German suppliers. Just search on "Seuthe"
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Re: smoke
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2015, 11:17:42 AM »

thank you gents ill give the fogjuice ago  :-))
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Re: smoke
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 11:36:06 AM »

I'd be careful! Reading the label this stuff is intended for water-based fog machines. These use a nebuliser to create a mist while the Graupner/Seuthe units use a heated element to vapourise an oil-based distillate.
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Re: smoke
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2015, 02:48:30 PM »

Most of the fog machines use glycol which will not work in the oil type smoke generaters, plus can trigger asthma attacks. Use baby oil and Varsol 50/50%. It works baby oil is to thick by itself.
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Re: smoke
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 03:05:23 PM »


Varsol - is that we call Turps / white spirits? ( States call it rubbing alcohol I think?!)
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Re: smoke
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2015, 03:55:28 PM »

Glycol is used in "water-cooled" internal combustion engines to prevent freezing.  I don't think it is used for medicinal purposes, I could be wrong.   Sounds like a glycerine and alcohol mix ?    Best smoke is pyrotechnics if the model is suitable, a LOT of heat !  Expensive too.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 04:42:44 PM »

Ah! Now I know this one! "Glycol" is ethylene glycol (anti-freeze, and sweetener in dodgy under-the-counter wine) and rubbing alcohol is pure ethanol. I wouldn't drink either of them........................ :o

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Re: smoke
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2015, 04:50:25 PM »

As ever, Wiki has information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit  Varsol is, indeed, white spirit.
Rubbing alcohol - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubbing_alcohol
Martin, be careful which you use for what.
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Re: smoke
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2015, 09:21:16 PM »

Hmm...sounds like something to be tested on the workbench, not in the boat. Best to have an appropriate fire extinguisher nearby, just in case!

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Re: smoke
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2015, 10:12:48 PM »

i been playing with smoke for a while ..... im a pyrotechnician  .. ... watch my video i made ... but please turn the sound down . unless you dont mind a bit of swearing !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzUzxXFqUF0

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