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inertia

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I've been asked to design an installation for this model, to include working fire monitors and a towing winch. To save me hours of trawling through the web is there anyone out there who knows of such items and can point me to the websites/suppliers etc? Model scale is 1/75. This is a for a South African customer so the items must be finished and commercially available for us to obtain and forward to him.
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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2015, 09:15:43 AM »

Good morning Dave
I looked for ages for fire monitors for Fairmount Alpine but nothing showed up for that scale ,I know it's not much use to you this reply ,so if any one comes up with a source it would be good . All I could find were well out of scale .
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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2015, 09:19:41 AM »

I am also needing these fire monitors in 1:72 scale.  I agree with the general consensus that it will be difficult to find now that the Graupner ones are rare.

I appreciate it will of no use to you, I am forced to construct some myself.  if anyone does find a source , then please let us all know.

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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2015, 10:30:41 AM »


1. What do the monitors required look like?

2. Where are the guys with the 3D printers?!
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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2015, 05:37:30 PM »


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1. What do the monitors required look like?

2. Where are the guys with the 3D printers?!
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I could have one done, ...
Do need to know the scale and type though.
There are some minimum dimensions also, it is difficult to work up a
water channel in really small diameters.


I did one from scratch, and built it up by hand, and another I drew up an
engineering sketch from "as built" measurements from the actual fire boat here in town.
Then had a friend create a CAD drawing. I then had the masters 3d printed, and
built up and added the bolt patterns and valve, handwheel and nozzle handle from scratch or by hand.


These were my results, two "working" fire monitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVlpIf4VyFk
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Actually I have done five, but three others were not for "production".
Two Brass sized Skum monitors, and then some smaller for the same model.

 

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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2015, 06:14:19 PM »


Was that fire boat your build Umi?
Isn't there a detailed build of it on a website somewhere?

Edit: Sorry not yours Umi - http://www.rvjunkie.com/fireboat/
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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »

Vic's boat was huge, but he never showed the finished model.
We collaborated a bit on photos and drawings.


I got all excited about Voith Schneider drives in 1991, and found out
Graupner had discontinued them. Then in 2002, when they the new version of
the VS drive was released, I jumped on them, and found the LA Fireboat #2 under construction.
So I built one...  %)


http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77749

The fire monitors Ken is showing are one I have researched, but have yet to
approach my CAD guy to see if it is something he wants to work up.  %)

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Re: Working fire monitors and towing winch for Billings Smit Rotterdam
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2015, 08:47:12 PM »

The Monitors are very small . I got them to work .
1 strip the fitting down . drill out the nozzle with a 1 mm drill. replace the barrel with some small KN brass tubing . drill out the main fitting from the bottom and were the barrel gos in to . solder a tube on to the bottom reassemble and solder all parts together.
that what I did and they work well


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