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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #225 on: January 24, 2016, 05:15:12 PM »

Excellent castings Joe!

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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #226 on: January 24, 2016, 10:10:54 PM »

it was the smallest strip I had, painting may soften it a bit.  %%


ahhhhh always a good logical reason lol

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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #227 on: January 26, 2016, 04:10:47 PM »

I've been making my version of the anchor winch today, as there's only one I'm not going to bother with a moulding for the body, but the windlass drums are quite tricky so I've made one and will cast two off, so this is as far as I've got till the mould has cured.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #228 on: January 26, 2016, 08:17:36 PM »

It just gets better and better :-))


I think those rhibs are fantastic. Well done, quality work!   U2
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #229 on: January 26, 2016, 09:00:50 PM »

Amen :-))
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #230 on: January 26, 2016, 10:34:16 PM »

nice winch Joe  :-))

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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #231 on: January 27, 2016, 11:48:42 AM »

Got the anchor winch finished, it's so much more satisfying to make fittings than buying them as a job lot, I intend to try and make all or most of the items on Brocklesby, it will make the build much longer but as I enjoy building them more than sailing them that's fine by me,
next up is the deck water brake and lockers.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #232 on: January 27, 2016, 06:04:25 PM »

Standard of your fittings I think that is a sensible choice especially as you enjoy the building.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #233 on: January 27, 2016, 10:28:18 PM »

I agree, they are top notch and would be the pride of anyones model I reckon.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #234 on: January 29, 2016, 04:53:19 PM »

Thanks for your comments and interest chaps,  did the basic water brake I'll add some more detail after painting, also the anchor hawser collars the winch is still loose and will be painted separately, while in that area I had a go at making the anchors I think they came out OK, the two only took a couple of hours to make so didn't bother moulding them, I find styrene a very good medium to work with.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #235 on: January 29, 2016, 07:54:27 PM »

Keep it coming Joe it's great :-))


A couple of questions.......
Everyone except me seems to make fantastic detailed pieces from 'styrene' or plastic I'm going to have to give it a go but what is the best glue to use on it?


Also when you made those fantastic doors and stowage boxes behind the water brake (not sure if that's what they are called) did you cut the hinge straps out separately or are they moulded units?


I think it seems to be the boat builders material of choice but being relatively new to boats I've never come across it. I think a look online or a trip to the model shop is in order..... U2
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #236 on: January 29, 2016, 08:45:53 PM »

Hi U2, I use liquid poly cement for most styrene construction and thin Cyanoacrylate to join styrene to other materials like ply deck etc. all the details on the lockers are cut off various styrene strip, www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk stock styrene in many sizes, sheets of various thickness, and lots of profiles.   :-))

Deans marine do a pack of assorted micro strip styrene, that I've found really useful for fine detailing. O0
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #237 on: January 29, 2016, 08:57:05 PM »

Hi Joe,

I don't know whether it would be of use, but while looking into another project in the Thornycroft archives in Southampton, I noticed that there's a box of records including stuff on Brocklesby. Their reference is VT/R Box 16 and it's dated 1980.

Cheers

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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #238 on: January 29, 2016, 09:17:22 PM »

Thanks for the info Tony, not sure where it is but if I get up to Southampton I'll look them up. :-))
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #239 on: January 29, 2016, 09:50:07 PM »

Hi U2, I use styrene every day and can vouch fully for what Joe is saying. I use Plastic weld to stick styrene together but liquid poly is also good and has a nice smell:O)

Evergreen and Plastruct are the premier strip manufacturers with the former making the better strip, and the latter making the better rod, it being round and always solid.

All good model shops should sell a range of styrene sheet, usually in A4 size or very similar, and the really good ones selling larger sheets that are good for decks etc.

10thou (.25mm) is good for representing plates and for laminating curves, and also good for flanges etc.

20 thou (.5mm) is good for the above on large scale models and also has some strength for making some structures where the edges can be seen, though you can chamfer the edge of thicker plastic down to recreate a thinner wall.

30 and 40 thou (.75mm and 1mm respectively) are good for structures such as deck houses.

60 thou (1.5mm is good structural material, but I would be careful using it on superstructures where balance is more critical.

You can get 2mm, 2.5mm and even thicker on occasion and these are probably best left unless you need to laminate a block of plastic to carve.

It can be cut, sawed, drilled and carved, it can also be heat formed with care using a soldering iron for rod and strip, and in sheet form using hot water or a hot air gun. The oldest trick in the latter's book is stretched sprue for making aerials on tank models where you heat some model kit sprue over a candle/naked flame and stretch the sprue into filament when the middle softens but this is a smelly and dirty job.

Look at the shapes that Joe and other modellers make with styrene on their models and you can see how versatile it is:O)
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #240 on: January 29, 2016, 09:57:02 PM »

Wow Joe, a lot of hard work going into this build. Nice looking ship, has some nice lines to it.  Amazing details going on here as well. Well done!!! :-)) :-))
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #241 on: January 29, 2016, 10:34:52 PM »

Thanks Dennis, good to hear from you on the other side of the pond. :-))
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #242 on: February 01, 2016, 04:49:54 PM »

Fitted the spurn waters/ fairleads and bollards to the decks, the hull is about ready for painting now but it's too cold and damp in the garage where I do the spray painting, I doubt if that will be done for a couple of months so for now I'll carry on making the many items on her decks, I've ordered some box section styrene the aid the construction of the mezzanine deck supports, that is something I've still to get my head around.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #243 on: February 01, 2016, 09:20:45 PM »

From what I can see, they look simple enough. They have gone back to the early ninteenth century method of boat storage on a frame, so I suggest that like HMS Warrior (1905) and others, the frames will have scantling shaped frames to sit the boats in and the odd walkway I walked past one berthed in Poole some years back and was too enthused by the minigun on the bridge wing and what was underneath the mezzanine to pay full attention.

I can see square beans and supports with plate reinforcements at the corners with the corners bevelled. Well within your experience and skills Joe.

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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #244 on: February 01, 2016, 10:37:47 PM »

Yes I've just about worked out how I'm going to do the mezzanine, my main concern is to make it removable for painting and future cleaning etc. I plan to fix the first inch of each support to the deck these will carry the side panels then the rest of the support "hoops" will slot in the tops of the fixed pieces, but of course it will be removed as one structure.  %%
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #245 on: February 01, 2016, 11:05:52 PM »

That sounds a bit technical, looking nice tho'
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #246 on: February 03, 2016, 03:06:56 PM »

When I decided to try and make all the items for Brocklesby I was bit concerned about the DS30B gun on her fore deck and whether I could make one that would pass muster, but I thought I've nothing to loose but a bit of time and a small amount of styrene, so I've spent the last couple of days on my version of the DS30B and have to say I'm quite pleased with the result, I didn't bother with any mouldings for this as it was quite enjoyable to make so if I ever need another one I'll know what to do. 
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #247 on: February 03, 2016, 03:09:48 PM »

and a few more if it's not too boring.
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #248 on: February 03, 2016, 04:49:06 PM »

Very nice work Joe looks superb, no worries about passing muster at all.  :-))
The barrel also looks good, did you make that as well?
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Re: HMS Brocklesby semi scratch build
« Reply #249 on: February 03, 2016, 05:08:41 PM »

and a few more if it's not too boring.




Boring?
Your builds are never boring Joe.
They are a revelation to many of us.
You have turned a few into pattern
maker's and Casters and shown how
to make all kinds of fittings.




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