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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2015, 09:34:54 am »

A couple of ideas there...I sense a little job for someone coming up (Andy...tattooed  %) )
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2015, 11:36:54 am »

Looking at the figure given in the instruction book.


It is basic but will work, no problem. Remember simple is often best. It is also worth remembering that sail boats generally have a balanced design to give good performance. Once you start shifting things about you could be making the boat sub optimal. Below I explain what I mean by shifting things about.


From the diagram you are looking at having the gooseneck 19mm off the base of the mast, I am also assuming this would be the deck.
This leaves no room for an additional kicking strap.


If you make space for a kicking strap (non essential) then there will be two knock on effects.
Firstly the gap between the deck and the foot of the sail will be increased, quiet a lot proportionally, and this will have a negative effect on sailing ability. The smaller the gap the better.
Secondly, you may need to recut the sail, cutting off the foot. Or lengthen the mast. The former would give you a smaller sail area and shift the centre of effort forwards, she would not sail so well. The latter would put more weight up high, and the centre of effort of the sail would also be higher. This would affect how far she tips over in the wind. This in turn means you cannot sail in as strong a wind as before.


We are only talking about 2cm, but on a smaller vessel 2cm may not be negligible. As you said, you won't be racing. So why spend additional money on custom parts? Keep the cash for beer.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2015, 11:42:39 am »

Addendum.


Something I have said to people before. If you are new to sailing, get your first boat on the water asap and enjoy.
You will also be using a boat that is set up right to learn how to sail nicely, and set and balance your rig. Its not rocket science but it takes a bit of practice to do it elegantly. With a standard boat you know where any shortcoming are (probably the skill of the skipper) and not have to worry about problems with the boat.
Tinker with your next boat.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2015, 11:47:05 am »

Thanks for that, TT...makes sense, even to a yacht virgin like me.


I'll leave things as they are, then....much appreciated...thanks again.


And thanks for the addendum...just wish the perishin' thing would hurry up and get here. It's only coming from Fareham ... :embarrassed:  ...I could have driven down there and collected it in a couple of hours.



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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2015, 02:18:28 pm »

The 590 has just arrived....now to open the box.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2015, 03:54:40 pm »

Hi,

Our work here is done.

If you can find a copy of Vic Smeed's book Model Yachting it will explain everything.

My copy is many years old now but I still refer to it now and then.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2015, 08:37:18 pm »

When I opened the box earlier, there was a copy of "Radio Control Model Yachts"  by Trevor Reece tucked inside it, looks an interesting read.


Tomorrow I'll open the box properly and take some photos of the kit.


Thanks for the help, guys...
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2015, 10:27:10 pm »

Couldn't resist opening the box and taking a quick peek...the hull looks to be a very nice moulding. Not bad for a 30 year kit...
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2015, 09:32:34 am »

Hi U-33,

That is looking very good, if the rest of the parts are as good you are on the start of a good looking yacht.

From memory the Trevor Reece book is around 20 years old. It should be the same as Vic Smeeds.

More photos please.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2015, 10:19:41 am »

More photos as requested, Mr Rickles...


There's even two tubes of adhesive included in the kit, plus a craft knife as well.


Last photo shows the all important registration number..
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2015, 10:23:37 am »

Hi,

Well that is a good start.

Very good condition.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2015, 10:29:33 am »

It is in 99% perfect condition, according to the lady from whom I bought it from, it was purchased brand new by a family member, put in the garden shed, and there it remained until a few days ago when the shed was sorted out. None of the bags had even been opened, they were all attached to the box as they would have been when it was packed ready to ship, around thirty years ago.


I consider it a bargain...33.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2015, 04:03:23 pm »

Hi,

So that is roughly $70Australian.

That is a REAL bargain.

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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2015, 04:17:10 pm »

I thought so...  :o


Made a start on the building today...hull and deck trimmed, and fit perfectly, just a little final sanding to do to tidy up the edges.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2015, 09:16:27 am »

A little more done last night...rudder cut out and assembled, and the internal rudder support cut out.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2015, 10:19:14 am »


Looking good, strong stand!!   :-))

1. How thick is the plastic?
2. What glue you using?
3. Does it come with the keel bulb weight?
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2015, 10:26:15 am »

Would I be ok to replace the supplied moulded styrene centre hatch cover with a clear 3mm hatch, bolted down the same as a submarine hatch? Bolts up through from underneath, rubber gasket and securing nuts on top?


I'd like to be able see what's going on inside the hull, just in case of water ingress or something falling off somewhere...


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Martin..the styrene is of variable thickness, depends on where it is...but a minimum of 2mm it seems.
Glue...I always use Revell Contacta Professional for styrene to styrene joints, sometimes with a fillet of Devcon epoxy for extra strength if needed.
And yes, the keel bulb weight is supplied with the kit.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2015, 12:40:33 pm »

Something like this...


Fear not, it's only a temporary hatch...  ;D
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2015, 03:53:05 pm »

Cancel that post above, changed my mind...I'm going to use the 3 kit hatches, but the middle one I'm going to insert a recessed clear panel into the hatch itself. I'll look much better, I think...


Hatches now all opened up..
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2015, 04:21:14 pm »

Trust in Harveys stuff, always worked for me.
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2015, 04:33:54 pm »

Harvey's...can't drink the stuff, it's horrible. Oh...you mean Harvey Middleton? Yep, I'd agree with that...I've had a 575, a Thames Barge, a Deep Dive, and now the 590, they all seem to work straight out of the box.
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2015, 04:56:27 pm »

Harvey's...can't drink the stuff, it's horrible. Oh...you mean Harvey Middleton? Yep, I'd agree with that...I've had a 575, a Thames Barge, a Deep Dive, and now the 590, they all seem to work straight out of the box.

590S, Deep Dive, Lightning, Thunderboat, 12M Yacht, Type 23 Frigate...When models WERE models and you had to use glue....not Royal Mail to send its smoking husk back to the nearest importer of tat!

I have turned into a moaning old git...is there any room left on this forum for 'just one more'?
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2015, 05:24:34 pm »

Join the club, skip...I'm Chairman of the MOGS. (Miserable Old Gits Society)  %)
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Re: HFM 590 yacht
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2015, 02:06:30 pm »

Top picture is for Martin...the supplied keel weight in the keel.


Second picture shows the started radio installation...rudder post bonded in position, rudder servo installed, and sail winch servo arm made. Instead of the tiny hooks supplied, I made two loops out of 1/16th brass wire, superglued them to the arm, fixed them into position with shirring elastic, then coated the whole lot with superglue.
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2015, 03:54:30 pm »

Hi,


The white rudder support.


Is there a prvision to grease the rudder shaft?


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