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Akira

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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #150 on: August 09, 2019, 01:47:38 pm »

A possible solution for bellows is to look at automotive bellows. They are used on brake ststems, throttles, ect. They are much more durable. Just a thought.
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #151 on: August 19, 2019, 09:29:27 pm »

HI Akira                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Yes i know what you mean about using automotive bellows, i used them as you said in the big 12ft Gato sub and they do work quite well. I am supprized nobody has made any bellows from silicone rubber, but allot of the smaller bellowsare not as good as they was a few years ago. I have not took the small Gato out for a few months now, i don't think i have took the big Gato out for 5 years now or so seems a bit of a shame as it just sits in the garage gathering dust, i ran it up a few months ago and it all works fine resin why i ran i up was i changed the coolant for the compressor                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Thanks for reply all the best Sub John
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #152 on: September 03, 2021, 10:19:28 pm »

Hi Guys
      Just a bit of a up date on the Engel Gato was testing the sub in the paddling pool the other day and the front dive tank started to do strange things, it would only blow half the tank at the front of the sub and some times it would compleatly blow the tank. I thought i had got a problem with the control board that i made for it but after testing it the board worked ok, but to cut a long story short Engel uses micro switches for end stops on the tanks one of the micro  switch works on the part that operates the slide pot that micro switch works fine it has a nice shamford edge and that works fine no problem, but the other micro switch the peice that pushes in on the micro switch the threaded rod travels up and down it like a file wareing a groove in it so it starts to play up not a very good design. Why they could not have used a micro switch with a roller which would of stoppted the problem so what i have deceided to do to get ride of this problem all together i have designed infa red cut outs so it works on light. Hopefully i won't have this problem once i change it.


       The circuit boards that i designed for the tanks have worked without a problem for over 5 years so all i can say is it is a proven design dare i say no relays i really do hate them?plus i hate micro switches they are no good to man or beast
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #153 on: September 03, 2021, 10:41:14 pm »

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.....i have designed infa red cut outs so it works on light.

A 'break beam' type?



 
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #154 on: September 03, 2021, 11:26:15 pm »

Hi Martin
      Nice to hear from you hope you are well, yes same sort of infa red but had to make mine they have to link up to my control board for the Engel Gato it is a pain about the micro switches it really has worn a groove in it


       Hope to meet up with you at one of the shows with a bit of look think in a couple of weeks they are having a sub dive in at Wicksteed park are you going to go


                                All the best Sub John
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2024, 06:48:38 pm »

HI every one
 
      Had a big problem with the Engel Gato i put the sub on charge with a very good charger, to cut a long story short was in the garage at the time and the charger switched off every thing seemed to be fine, so i unpluged the charger and put the cover back over the sub to take it out the next day. i then went up stairs to bed but when i came to it the next day when i pulled the cover off every thing was black inside the sub, what had happened during the nigh one of the batterys exploded. Three of the cells all the insides just blow out nothing shorted out in the sub all i can say is what a mess it was i was very lucky that there was a alloy plate sat above the batterie packs. That was the only thing that stoppted the sub from catching fire.


       You have never seen anything in such a mess i have been on weeks sorting it out but it is all back together now last thing to do is trim it back up. The odd thing is i remember switching off the charger looking at the LCD display and every thing was fine. I had some of the same make of cells in another unit and when i came to charger it the charger came up with fault and the batterys had just died and they was not even plugged into anything, im not going to say what cells they are but i will say that i will not buy any more
 


   I was very lucky that the garage did'nt burn down and the big sub with it, so it just goes to show how dangerous it can be charging batterys
                      All the best Sub John
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2024, 08:56:34 pm »


Yes very Luck John!   .... About how old were the batteries?
 
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Re: Engel Gato SS212
« Reply #157 on: November 04, 2024, 05:51:49 pm »

HI Martin
    Hope you are well, yes i think i was very lucky like you said. When one of the battries exploded all that was left of the cells was empty tubes like the old metal dustbins the cells was about 1.5 years old, but one of the things that i always noticed was they all ways felt warm after they had been charged warmer than i would expect them to be after being charged. The news cells which i have put in and there are 60 of them and they do not get warm after they have been charged.


     Thanks for reply Martin catch you soon Sub John
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