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[joppyuk1]

As my eyes and hands are getting dodgy I'm finding it difficult to hold my mini drill exact for making regular lines of holes (stantions, portholes, etc.) and have dec ided it's time to get a mini bench mounted drill that can hold all those minute needle width drill bits, Can anyone reccomend a suitable model? I'd prefer one I can pop to a shop and get (Screwfix and Machine Mart both have local stores, though Hobbies are about half an hour away) so I can see before buying.
thanks

[Brian60]

I have the dremel drill press. This is the one that a dremel type hand drill screws into. It works but for the price I was expecting a quality bit of kit. What I can say is, because the dremel tool is only held by the screw collar, as you lower the press to the work the drill bit deflects because of movement of the up/down part on the main shaft. As far as I can see there is no way to tighten this part. Once my present build is complete I intend to spend time sorting out my tools, this is one of them. I will make a bracket to brace the top of the dremel to the top of the sliding part to stop this  movement.

But as I said, for the price, it shouldn;t do this anyway! If I had the cash I would definitely buy the Proxxon which is real quality and is a miniature of a full size press complete with dedicated drive, so there should be no movement.

The diagram is better at explaining it. As you apply downward pressure to the workpiece, it moves in the direction of the arrows, it needs bracing at the top. The result is your drill bit deflects from the point you need to drill.

[joppyuk1]

I understand what you mean. Currently, with my hand held, I'm getting either oval holes due to hand wobble, or scratches around holes due to hesitation in placement. Am looking at the Proxxon as one option.

[Buccaneer]

If you can afford it go for a Proxxon, German engineering at its best. It will last a lifetime, even if you are only 15!

I bought a TBH Model quite a few years ago for slightly heavier work, it has a chuck and key with max drill size of 10mm. It is currently available from Axminster Tool centre at £320, 12% discount. The smaller TBM 220 model has 6 Collets going down to 1 mm and is currently available at £170. A screw chuck is available. Check out their website at www.axminster.co.uk . Free postage on orders of this value.

I would avoid any device where you clamp a small hand drill into a stand, if at all possible.

John

[Seaspray]

I've got the dremel 395 ( to me the RR of dremels) even that set in the workstation ( dremel press ) does wobble and I use a centre punch to start a hole even in wood or a dentist sharp probe. Proxxon, I don't know about them but they say they're good.

[The Old Fart]

I was in contact with dremel about the 'run out' of the spindle on the 3000 range.

They know there is a problem but will not do anything about it.

dremel 4000 is slightly better.

The flexi is better for hand drilling.

The dremel stand, is as previously mentioned, not worth the money. I use it to drill out printed circuit boards, and drill bit drifts into the circuit pin holes.

Oh, and have had to send 3 3000 back to Bosch under warrenty, all speed control faults.

[Seaspray]

joppyuk1

I use a magnifier headset with 5 different strengths of clip in magnification lens great help on small detail.   


Has anybody used one of these, it seems to have a N. American plug on it I take it, it is suitable for U.K. use.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCB-Art-Mini-Bench-Drill-Press-180W-6mm-Chuck-Fully-Adjustable-Speed-100080-/271937853002

or is a proxxon  the one to use

[joppyuk1]

I did look at these on e-bay, but as they all seemed to be in N.America I thought it too much hassle if it wasn't right.
(ps I already have to use those magnification glasses)

[cos918]

machine mart do some nice pillar drills at good prices.I have one never let me down yet.


john

[mudway]

joppyuk1

I use a magnifier headset with 5 different strengths of clip in magnification lens great help on small detail.   


Has anybody used one of these, it seems to have a N. American plug on it I take it, it is suitable for U.K. use.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCB-Art-Mini-Bench-Drill-Press-180W-6mm-Chuck-Fully-Adjustable-Speed-100080-/271937853002

or is a proxxon  the one to use

I use one of them purchased in Oz. They work well and seem to be a generic one from China. Mine looks the same but is painted differently and came from a "small tool shop" specialising in tools for modellers. They are be sold in the UK by Amazon.
  http://www.amazon.co.uk/100080-Bench-Drill-Press-7000RPM/dp/B00KBYXPCU

[RAAArtyGunner]

Even here in Oz the Dremel drill stand is not worth it.

[Seaspray]

mudway

Had a look at your link and picked up on the first review of M.J. Dennis. It has  a sewing machine motor in it.


Also noticed that you can open the top to get to the belt and it will still run. My Aldi pillar drill won't run  when open to get to belts.

[mudway]

Seaspray,
 
No idea about an Aldi drill press but they had one on sale here which came with its own built in hernia at over 20kgs. However, it couldn’t take drills under 3mm which is the reason for buying mini drill presses. Mine has 3 pulleys but I have left it working on the middle one which it arrived set up to do back in 2013. Since then it has happily drilled through plastic without melting it, brass up to about 3mm and timber up to 25mm without complaint. A friend has a Proxxon which set him back over $600 (300 quid +), mine was $110. Obviously his is better built but they both do their job.
This is the nearest to it I can see advertised right now.
 http://www.hobbytools.com.au/micro-bench-press-variable-speed-6-35mm-capacity/
 

[inertia]

I've had one of these for donkey's years, along with a Minicraft drill and transformer. The stand works very well as long as you keep the two vertical pillars well greased. The new model seems only to have one vertical pillar. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Minicraft-Vertical-Drill-Stand-MB540-/281788928305?_trksid=p2054897.l4275
DM

[sparkey]

  These machines work well for what they are and do the job,on the minus side trouble getting replacement belts,my mate has one and the belt broke when the drill jammed in a bit of brass,he tried the suppliers and they didn't have any,he took the old belt to a sewing machine shop in Wimbledon and they managed to supply him a couple from a sewing machines spares,so if you need a belt you can get them from sewing machine suppliers......Ray      

[essex2visuvesi]

My Father In law has a supplier in the UK who supplies belts for all sorts of things and if he doesn't have it on the shelf he will make them up to your specs.


I'll get the contact details off him and post on here

[joppyuk1]

Whoops! Had an expensive day today, first the bench sander sander broke the drive belt, so nothing moving till I get a new one, then as I was cutting some leg support blocks for the caravan, the bench saw started giving off sparks followed by a loud bang and the silence and a nasty smell of burnt motor. Perhaps the universe telling me to have a few days off!