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« on: September 23, 2015, 05:39:13 PM »

Volkswagen chief executive resigns:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34340997

.....I wonder what took him so long?!!
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Re: Re: In the News - Volkswagen Scandal
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 05:47:31 PM »

Looking forward to the next five years of nuisance phone calls....." Have you been mis-sold a Volkswagen?"
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Re: Re: In the News - Volkswagen Scandal
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2015, 06:11:39 PM »

Or a Seat,Skoda,Audi
Did they do a diesel Lamborghini?
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2015, 06:49:53 PM »

As I understand it the software for engine management when it detected a test unit connected to it changed the parameters of the engine to give a lower carbon emission figure.
You are going to get caught sooner or later!
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Re: Re: In the News - Volkswagen Scandal
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2015, 07:32:43 PM »

Or a Seat,Skoda,Audi
Did they do a diesel Lamborghini?
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Re: Re: In the News - Volkswagen Scandal
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2015, 12:16:50 AM »

Volkswagen chief executive resigns:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34340997
.....I wonder what took him so long?!!

He couldn't get his car started because of all the "muck" that was being thrown his way.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2015, 09:46:31 AM »

 >>:-( So VW have been found out fiddling the emissions figures,clever software that can tell whether the car is on the road or on a rolling road on test, giving a lower figure for the latter,this could bankrupt VW with all the damage claims as all the lawyers are circling around like Vultures and soon all the adds will be on your telly like the PPI scandal,is this just the tip of the iceberg? have all the car companies been doing this?could this be the end of many famous car makes?whatever the outcome this story is going to run and run.If you have one of these cars it will be recalled and the software altered which means the performance will be a lot poorer and you will use a lot more fuel to keep the car emissions correct,if I a betting man I would put my money on that they are not the only ones and that governments will cover a lot of this up to protect these important industries and the jobs involved,having had many new cars I have never been able to get anywhere near the fuel figures they claim no matter how careful I drive so this just another of their false information their pump out to the public,anyone have any other views on this story.....Ray >>:-(         
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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2015, 10:16:18 AM »

I agree with you Ray,
If VAG are guilty then it follows that their competitors were doing something similar to level the playingfield.


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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2015, 11:28:54 AM »

This is a very complex issue, not necessarily centred on the transport industry for an answer  >>:-(

Should we ask all commuters to walk?....would we then need to ask them to pass a minimal or acceptable level of a GAS emission's test from bodily functions  {-) to permit them to walk on the road?

If a walking commuter was found to be passing an unacceptable level of CO2 or C3 O4...during their jolly walk to work.......who would  :police: this?....  %)........

Go VW :-))...you have my vote...Derek
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2015, 12:08:24 PM »

I just wonder now if they will replace all the Audi's that have particulate filter problems in other words the exhaust gets blocked with the so called soot remover that will block up ad cause the car to go into limp mode and can happen so easily.

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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2015, 12:09:16 PM »

The question that has not been answered is, how did they find out, suspect there was an informant.

They had been getting away with it for some time.

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2015, 01:15:32 PM »

I think that the real root of the problem is that these tests are done in a lab rather than out on a road. It shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to contrive a "standard" section of real road (i.e, no gradient, same surface and camber etc) on which all cars can be tested at a number of different road speeds. There are already portable gas analysers out there which can be connected to the exhaust of a moving car; I watched a video of one on the BBC News website just yesterday. As for other manufacturers cheating in the same way, I would be frankly amazed if they weren't all at it to some degree; it's too tempting.
I stopped buying diesels only because I wanted a particular model of car and the local dealer had an ex-demo one at a very good price - but it was a petrol-engined model. These days I only do a fraction of the mileage I used to do when at work, so the fuel consumption isn't that important. As for emissions, I have a problem when comparing those of a 2-litre diesel car with a forty-foot articulated HGV. Incidentally, both my car and Elizabeth's are supposed to do a combined MPG of over 50, yet neither of us can get more than 36.
You're daft if you believe a car salesman's blarney, so why have any more faith in the car manufacturer? Capitalism has made cynics of us all.
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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2015, 01:33:11 PM »


I would have thought that once the "fix" has been uploaded, that fuel consumption would go down... preceded by a bigger drop in performance!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34324772
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2015, 02:12:14 PM »

A huge proportion of your mpg figures come directly from the way you drive and where you live - I live on a hill so almost all my cold-starts are driving up a long incline.

My car has a computer that displays all sorts of stuff including trip mpg.

I normally get around 28mpg but on a run, it can be 48mpg - when my wife borrows the car, it drops to 25mpg and 40mpg doing the same journeys.
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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2015, 02:14:00 PM »

A bit more info on how VW were found out, in this article http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/exclusive-vw-recall-letters-in-april-warned-of-an-emissions-glitch/ar-AAeHRd5?li=AA54rW&ocid=mailsignoutmd


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The company didn’t explain that it was taking the action in hopes of satisfying government regulators, who were growing increasingly skeptical about the reason for discrepancies between laboratory emissions test results and real world pollution from Volkswagen’s diesel cars.
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Re: VW scandal
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2015, 02:16:19 PM »

A huge proportion of your mpg figures come directly from the way you drive and where you live - I live on a hill so almost all my cold-starts are driving up a long incline.

My car has a computer that displays all sorts of stuff including trip mpg.

I normally get around 28mpg but on a run, it can be 48mpg - when my wife borrows the car, it drops to 25mpg and 40mpg doing the same journeys.


Which? Magazine has been on the case of differences between real world figures and manufacturers figures for a while. It was reported that the VW Golf had one of the  biggest discrepancies.


Concerns over true pollution levels have also spread to fuel consumption, with the consumer group Which? having long reported discrepancies between official miles per gallon test figures and their own results, with the VW Golf being the second-worst offender in their research. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/24/vw-scandal-car-giant-faces-uk-legal-claims
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2015, 02:22:21 PM »

My car does less than 20Mpg, Uses 1L of 2 stroke oil per 1000 or so miles but I love it :)
Emissions are suprisingly lower than my nissan X-Trail
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2015, 05:16:07 PM »

What you got Gary - a Wartburg {-) %% {-) %%


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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2015, 05:18:22 PM »

Must have a Rotor  :-)) :-)) :-))


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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2015, 05:19:58 PM »

My car does less than 20Mpg, Uses 1L of 2 stroke oil per 1000 or so miles but I love it :)
Emissions are suprisingly lower than my nissan X-Trail




barrie , I was wondering also ?




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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2015, 05:30:26 PM »

 :-)) The two stroke SAABs used to sound great........Ray. :-))   
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2015, 05:33:52 PM »

What you got Gary - a Wartburg {-) %% {-) %%


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PS I had one of these once.


My Grandad did too..... Quite sought after in Finland as they make great clubman rally cars



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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2015, 05:35:41 PM »

Had a Saab 88 back in the 60's


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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 05:39:58 PM »

One of my old workmates spent a fortune over 8 years fully restoring a Saab 2-stroke like that , then got married and the new missus had him sell it....... he was gutted !!!!
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