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Author Topic: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam  (Read 18582 times)

djrobbo

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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2007, 04:45:41 pm »

Hi bigford......from experience gained sailing my amsterdam , you are spot an with the top weight , but it takes loads of ballast to bring her down to her marks so top weight is not such a problem .  The standard barn door rudder , if thats what you ars using , does absolutely squat in reverse ..nothing..nada , so i am going to change to a kort in the refit......

                looking good !!! O0 O0

                                        regards....bob

                                         
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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2007, 08:54:33 pm »

I have not found my Amsterdam to be top heavy. As djrobbo says, so much ballast has to be added to bring her down to the waterline, the the weight of the upper works becomes a non issue. He is also spot on about the effectiveness - or lack thereof, of the rudder in reverse, and the fitting of a kort is recommended. I haven't fitted one (yet), but of the 7 Amsterdams in our club, only one has a kort, and it is far more manoeuverable in reverse than the others. That particular one was alxo fitted with a bow thruster which helps too.
Peter.
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bigford

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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2007, 01:20:11 am »

as work progress's i made a kort or more like a shroud  for the prop


it fits with a peice of match book thickness
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djrobbo

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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2007, 09:49:04 am »

Hi bigford....youll have to let us know how effective that shroud is when in reverse......as peter says i think a steerable kort , with perhaps assistance from bow thrusters is the way to go..

     may the force be with you !!



        regards....bob..
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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2007, 10:13:32 am »

Hy Bigford,
How did that new bow section work out, I think I have the same model, or very similiar, that I picked up off e,bay,  the one I have is a wooden build that has been glassed it has a massive bow, I was thinking of redoing the build and like your bow idea.
Cheers
Bosun
Will sort out and post a few pics
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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2007, 02:38:01 am »

I've attached a couple of shots of the prototype Amsterdam plus a couple of my own model of same. Thought they may be of help to those wondering what the full size vessel looks like.

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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2007, 12:30:38 pm »

oldiron

  your amsterdam is looks great in her colors O0
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Re: My new tug in drydock - Artesania Latina - Amsterdam
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2007, 02:04:25 pm »

Thanks very much. It took quite a while to come up with the correct colour scheme for her. It seems photos of the prototype are few and far between. Fortunately Weisjmuller were helpful.

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