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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #125 on: December 16, 2015, 03:25:04 PM »

ALWAYS get an independent check on anything important.


Very wise words, reading this thread and Colin's comments reminded me of what happened to my friend who is a teacher last summer. Her colleague went off on stress and she got dumped with the year book to be issued....Simple or so you would think...
It was all 17/18 year olds in their final year and there was a year book committee formed to sort this out it had been proof read by the committee 4 senior pupils and the teacher who was off and then one of the heads re-checked it. The books arrived and as my mate flicked through one of them underneath one of then pictures was
"XYZ club with David, Lorna and some  <*< >>:-( >:-o {:-{  need to find out his name"


She ended up sitting with a black marker and going through all the books deleting the offending caption
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #126 on: December 16, 2015, 08:59:47 PM »


You've probably not had the pleasure of editing a model boating magazine then!

No Colin, I haven't, although I have in a past life had to review some fairly hefty technical bid documents so am under no illusions about the effort and the "word blindness" involved.  One set of documents had to be shredded and reprinted because the word "not" was missing from a fairly important sentence in the executive summary.  That mistake changed the sense of the whole thing.  And yes, I was the one who passed it as fit to print.   :embarrassed:

And I really do enjoy Model Boats (I'm a subscriber)!  :-))

Greg

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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #127 on: December 16, 2015, 11:32:52 PM »

1. Submit text to magazine.
2. Read the published version.
3. Ask yourself why that punctuation/syntax/grammar/whatever error is there.
4. Check published version against original text.
5. Conclude that it was fine until The Editor got hold of it.
6. Grumble.
7. Receive cheque.......
8. Life isn't so bad, is it?  8)

(Not that anything like that has ever happened to me, of course....)
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2015, 08:30:09 AM »

Thin ice Dave, thin ice!  :o

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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2015, 08:33:23 AM »

Thin ice Dave, thin ice!  :o

Colin

I know, I know. The Editor's worm is final.  %)
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #130 on: December 17, 2015, 12:12:16 PM »

It's the last worm that counts before in finally turns.  O0
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #131 on: December 19, 2015, 03:32:03 PM »

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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #132 on: December 19, 2015, 04:33:39 PM »

He is going to say that he "has a raft of measures" :((
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #133 on: December 19, 2015, 04:40:04 PM »

He is going to say that he "has a raft of measures" :((


To keep the Company buoyant on the rising tide of inflation.


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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #134 on: December 19, 2015, 04:53:51 PM »

Correct, but I didn't want to quote the chancellor of the exchequer or any other government minister >>:-( .
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2015, 05:23:27 PM »

Best not to Quote them Duncan.
You don't want to be accused of
telling untruths on the Forum  %)


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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #136 on: December 21, 2015, 11:06:36 AM »

I think I'm right in saying that ebooks are scanned in, which probably accounts for the alarming amount of spelling mistakes and unpuncuated pages.  It's probably the spell check doing its thing and guessing the word.
That's probably why I could never get on with predictive text on a mobile phone.
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #137 on: December 21, 2015, 11:32:58 AM »

Ebooks that have been ripped are sometimes scanned in pdf format.
For original ebooks thel text is presented as soft copy to the publishers, and then converted to the publishers own publishing software. Then this itself can be copied in some programs.
Other copies can be a frantic typists (plural), paid by the word. In China pirate copies  the Harry Potter series were in the shops within 2 days of launch in the west using this method. They were full of typos, but in China it is race to the bookstore with everyone else trying to copy.
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #138 on: December 21, 2015, 11:14:02 PM »

Ebooks that have been ripped are sometimes scanned in pdf format.
For original ebooks thel text is presented as soft copy to the publishers, and then converted to the publishers own publishing software. Then this itself can be copied in some programs.
Other copies can be a frantic typists (plural), paid by the word. In China pirate copies  the Harry Potter series were in the shops within 2 days of launch in the west using this method. They were full of typos, but in China it is race to the bookstore with everyone else trying to copy.

Not to mention they use Chinglish in translating {-) {-) %% %%
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #139 on: December 23, 2015, 11:11:55 PM »

The usage "Can I get" - a coffee or a bar of chocolate, or whatever appears to be a Scottish one. I'd never heard it before we moved up here.
It gave me great satisfaction to take my snopake down to Sainsbury's the other day to take out an apostrophe in a charity poster "we raise money by various method's".
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #140 on: December 23, 2015, 11:25:00 PM »

The usage "Can I get" - a coffee or a bar of chocolate, or whatever appears to be a Scottish one. I'd never heard it before we moved up here.
It gave me great satisfaction to take my snopake down to Sainsbury's the other day to take out an apostrophe in a charity poster "we raise money by various method's".
You're probably right - I can hear it in my mind now (with the emphasis on the "I").  I wonder why it's suddenly become fashionable - if that's the correct word. Could it be the rise of the SNP? If so then let there be another referendum and let the answer be 'yes'. Can I get your support on that?  8)

As regards apostrophes, I would have all abusers of them brought to one place and burned. It just looks wrong, doesn't it?
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #141 on: December 24, 2015, 12:14:54 PM »

I thought ' Can I get ' was from the US. My Sister in Law said it years ago. A Dane we had working with us in Edinburgh said ' Get me a beer ' to a barmaid, who replied 'say please'.  'Why should I say please when I'm paying for it?' ' If you want it you say please' He spent the evening grumbling about it.
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #142 on: December 24, 2015, 12:23:16 PM »

I hate it when people are rude or offhand for no reason. Just got back from the hospital for a hearing test appointment (Christmas Eve!). The technician was helpful and has offered to upgrade me to the latest model aids, he didn't have to do that. He was really pleased when I thanked him for his help afterwards, obviously a lot of his 'customers' don't. People doing a job do like to be valued, whatever that job but they often don't get the recognition they deserve. It costs nothing.

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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #143 on: December 24, 2015, 09:04:28 PM »

I was told as a youth "Politeness is the lubricant that keeps Society going"
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #144 on: December 24, 2015, 11:07:08 PM »

I was told as a youth "Politeness is the lubricant that keeps Society going"
Regards,
Gerald.
These days it's apostrophes....
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #145 on: December 25, 2015, 08:59:56 PM »

I was told as a youth "Politeness is the lubricant that keeps Society going"
Regards,
Gerald.


I was told that Cod Liver Oil was the lubricant that kept society going.  It certainly did for me!


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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #146 on: December 25, 2015, 09:12:57 PM »

Colin, unfortunately many people take the view if someone is being paid to do a job they don't need to be thanked, an attitude I heartily disagree with. As you said, it cost nothing to be polite, or to thank someone, even if they are "only" doing their job.


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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #147 on: December 25, 2015, 10:06:33 PM »


 :o :o :o

First impressions really do count

 O0 O0 O0

Because we are adaptable, we Ozzies/Aussies do not have English language problemo. 

Couldt find a place to put an apostrophe  {-) {-) {-)

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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #148 on: December 25, 2015, 11:36:47 PM »

Couldt find a place to put an apostrophe  {-) {-) {-)

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...nor even a letter 'n', it seems...
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Re: Correct use of the English Language
« Reply #149 on: December 26, 2015, 12:15:16 AM »

 
 :o :o :o  ooops
 
Martin what happened to the spell checker  %) %) %)
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