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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2016, 07:19:06 am »

Not seen any for this period of time in this scale or I would.

1/100th equates to wargamers and figure modellers call 15mm, AB figures are one of the best but all they do in that scale that would be suitable would be RN boat crews and Royal Marines http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/royal-navy-967-c.asp

Seen in context now, the way you do your decks really works very well.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2016, 08:25:10 pm »

Hi all well this kit comeso with no anchors for the boats so I've knocked some up, also  there are no oars, I've checked a few builds not of the heller kits and they don't seem to have any either, were they stored below decks or should they be there.



Sorry my build rate has slowed so much, but I get some done when I can fit it in and am not feeling too knackered.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2016, 09:58:08 pm »

Coming along niecely. I assume the kit makers didn't bother, or ran out of budget when developing the kit. Maybe they did stow the oars below in oler days, but looking at Pre Dreadnoughts like Benbow, they were festooned with oars and spars etc.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #78 on: April 22, 2016, 09:27:58 am »

That is hard to belive it is a plastic kit. The deck is looking realy great :-))
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2016, 08:32:44 pm »

All boats carried in later years appear to have a tarp over them, when does this practice come into effect, if the boats had a tarp over them then anchors, oars etc would be hidden under them - wouldn't they?
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2016, 01:56:43 pm »

Okay, just a side enquiry, if I wanted to do the colour of the decks in a vintage pine or ash colour (pale whitey blue) what pastels or chalk colours would you recommend and in which order. :embarrassed:
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2016, 08:40:36 pm »

Hi all well still on this, not much to show, I seem to have lost any skill I had, this is looking so shabby, showed so much potential when I started it, I thought the wood effect was great (I know bit big headed but I did think it was a good effect) seems to have gone down hill since then, sorry.



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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2016, 09:57:02 pm »

I can sympathise with losing the knack a bit when being away for a while, but still, did you use a bit ofbrown in your initial washes? Perhaps a small amount washed on over the black will modify the effect?

Don't dispair, you know your work is fab Ken :-)) :-))
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2016, 08:50:11 am »

I know you will fix it when you get more time, kudos for your method of doing wood decks, it still looks superb to me.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #84 on: May 21, 2016, 02:35:23 pm »

if that is downhill, cant wait for my skills to go downhill :)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2016, 09:29:49 pm »

Hi all a tiny update really just to show I'm still on this (I know it's not great but I figure I can remove all the gold and redo it, if and when my mojo returns.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2016, 05:21:44 pm »

Hi all well since I've finished the 32 ford I'm tentatively back on this, the first thing I noticed(which when I put it away I didn't was the jib was quite a bit off centre, no amount of gentle twisting would straighten it so I bit my lip and cut it off.









The guilding on the top rails was rubbish so that's been given another go, still not happy with it but will live with it for now also added a bit more deck furniture.









Removed some of the wash from the transom sort of better we will just have to see how I feel after I've lived with it for a while, I may still strip it, I'm feeling better about it anyway.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2016, 09:04:47 pm »

That is good to hear Ken. Regarding your Bowsprit, sometimes you just have to be brutal and rip a bit off and repair it even if your brain is saying NOOO! She looks much better for it.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2016, 08:46:37 pm »

Hi all here is another little update, that mast is not glued in yet just positioned to see the effect, I've seen where people do the ratlines on the upper masts before atattching the mast, to me it looks easier than having to try it whilst attached to the ship.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #89 on: July 25, 2016, 03:49:59 am »

You are doing a fine job Ken.  You will do best to rig your shrouds and ratlines after you step the masts.  Detail is awe for this plastic model.  I've built many in wood, plank on frame.  For some reason in my old age, I have moved over to WW2 US Navy vessels.  Best to you, enjoy the build.  Dennis
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #90 on: July 29, 2016, 09:51:44 pm »

Hi all well this is certainly leagues more complex and detailed than any ship I've built not sure I'm upto rigging this, for instance all the pulleys attached it the mast and crows nest, I've barely started on this one mast, I take my hat off to anyone tackling this complex a rigging  not sure I will stick the course, I've not found an easy way to tie the pulleys. The 4von this mast took 2 hours and a lot of swearing.








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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #91 on: July 30, 2016, 02:40:06 pm »

At least you are giving it a go ken.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #92 on: July 30, 2016, 03:57:16 pm »

Ken, you are doing fine.... rigging is best done from the inside out... don't let yourself get trapped to get at something, if possible.  Make yourself some tools with thin dowel and brass rod to make a long hook or forked pushing and pulling tool.  Those blocks can be stropped using alligator grip stands (like an extra pair of hands), just set one of the blocks in one side clip, loop your line around the block and leave a bitter end tail, clip the other pair of your line and then tie the line together close to the end of the block and sease or whip using thin thread, clip off the bitter end and you are ready.  Their are many books out there on rigging.  Good luck, Dennis
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2016, 08:36:43 pm »

Hi all, the rest of the cannons are fully visible so I've decided to try and detail them a bit more, there is no wood grain moulded in the plastic sides so I've scratched some lightly with my knife and tried painting and using pastels to get an wood effect, not worked as well as I'd liked but better than nothing, and when they are installed you probably won't even notice anyway.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2016, 09:17:00 pm »

Hi Ken, they will be just fine.  Rig them up with block and tackle as best you can on the visible ones.  I built a Frigate and rigged the cannons fully on the second deck where you cannot see them.  Only I know.. now that is getting a bit "xxxxx" I think.  Whatever floats your boat as they say.  Dennis
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2016, 09:17:54 pm »

Hi all these cannons are a bit tedious but I've done a bit more, not happy with them, they still don't look very realistic (each one is less than 1/2 an inch long, well the carriage is anyway), so I can't do much with them but I'm wondering weather the decking from the 1/72 revell flower class corvette would look good stuck on and stained what do you think.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2016, 09:32:04 pm »

Those cannon will be fine at that scale.  Are you planning to rig them?  On the deck, that is fine as long as the printed deck planks work for the scale of 1/100... it is probably close.  You be the judge.  I used wood printed decking on the WW2 cruiser I am building and it worked out just fine.  Just keep on building, it will all come together and you will be happy.  Dennis
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2016, 08:38:38 pm »

Hi all well i know I've not touched this for a while, Pam just snapped the fore mast, apparently she was just getting the dog a treat  (the bag with the treats in was on the table with the kit) my fault entirely, she is so upset I'm more cross she even tried to, that's what I'm here for to get stuff, trouble is she thinks because she can make it to the loo and make a cuppa she can do anything, I love her to bits and can't wait for her to get better. Anyway when I do get back on this that will be the first thing for me to takle.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2016, 08:57:12 pm »

In real life strong winds and battle damage all took their toll on ships rigging, so its just art recreating life!

As long as Pam is alright that is the main thing.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2017, 08:07:56 pm »


Right after some good advice I may well get started back on this, I've just bought these 3 books
So hopefully after a good read the rigging won't be sooooo scarey.
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