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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2016, 04:10:49 PM »

Just had an excellent tour of HMS Alliance this afternoon, my mate and I were the only two on the tour, the guide was excellent and we took 11/4 hours, much better than the 10 minute walk thorough you get in the summer.
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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2016, 05:12:16 PM »

      blow the shed dust off this project and get it finished now.

Yes Trevor go for it - and add a nice deck gun. Which navy?

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2016, 05:20:33 PM »

I have just completed a Red October mod on a ten year old Engel Typhoon and I have to say that I am impressed with the in built safety systems fitted. With internal over pressure safety, water depth pressure safety, plus signal failsafe blowing the tanks, I felt very confident ( after the first run! ) to put it through its paces. Next on the slip is an Engel Nautilus, also about ten years old...we shall see how that handles.


just swapped an Engel Gato fully working am now in the process of building the Engel Nautilus just got to scrape a load of paint off the outer hull that the idiot who started her did





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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2016, 05:27:28 PM »

I would refer you to my painting guide on the build thread, but it pretty much says "do as I say not as I do!" Me, I would just spray the new colour straight over what went before, hair drier in hand just in case it thinks of pickling!
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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2016, 07:46:26 PM »

Having seen that particular nautilus,  over painting ot would not help. I believe the paint was troweled on!!!
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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2016, 08:25:50 PM »

Tom , I am in the process of reading this on regroups. When you get old you have to read things over and over. Seriously there are some points to note which I am sure will help me. The new hull is all pre drilled which put a lot of people off this kit. I know some have said about brass etched decks but my OTW had brass decks and they didn't really like keep coming off. Think anyone building the OTW would be better with stst plates. Still not arrived yet was promised for the 6 January apparently waiting on couple of servos.
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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2016, 09:05:14 PM »

Yes Trevor go for it - and add a nice deck gun. Which navy?

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     Oh yes! It'll definitely have a gun and a couple of other things too, but as to which navy, well with a feature from this, that and t'other submarine type it'll probably be a dis-united nations navy! Will do a bit on this project tonight, I found the motor and propshaft today and a rudder must be around somewhere amongst the clutter.

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2016, 09:45:31 PM »

Having seen that particular nautilus,  over painting ot would not help. I believe the paint was troweled on!!!


you got that right Klunk but its all off now and going together nicely


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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2016, 10:05:01 PM »

Looks like you got the Engel Nautilus hull with the upgraded fittings and extra detailing on the underside, earlier versions had none.

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2016, 06:38:22 AM »

Correct Andy extra rivet detail on underside of hull looks good but is a devil to get old paint off that has been troweled on T-Max 2 dive system so a relativley new craft. light units fell to pieces on removal so had to rebuild them 10mm LED`s off the internet are cheep so changed the colours from the drab Orange to White Blue and Orange


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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2016, 01:11:13 PM »

Have you thought of soda blasting the hull to get the paint off
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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2016, 01:20:32 PM »

Thought of all sorts MickyR1968 even contemplated a BLOW TORCH  {-)  took the slightly simpler route of water based stripper and a lot of time that has brought it up nice and ready for primer soon


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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2016, 02:57:28 PM »

I use De-solv-it graffiti remover on plastic shells/hulls. It was designed for removing graffiti from lexan/polycarbonate bus shelters, so it's plastic safe. Works very well, dab it on leave for a couple of hours, then just rub the paint off. No nasty fumes like the old nitromors etc.

Very thick paint tends to need more than one application though.

You can get it at Screwfix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM6tpvlqRU4

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2016, 10:31:40 PM »

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2016, 10:50:33 PM »

Mr muscle oven cleaner is another useful tool for the shed


Make sure you wash it off thoroughly afterwards
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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2016, 11:39:00 PM »

And fairy Power spray is even better


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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2016, 11:10:14 AM »

All the oven cleaners I've used have just been caustic solutions. You can mix your own for very little but you need to be careful about splashing it about.

However I find the graffiti remover better. having said that it appears Screwfix are no longer listing it on their website, which is a bummer.

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2016, 12:05:56 PM »

you need to be careful about splashing it about.

Same with money  O0

Can anyone tell me the length of a type seven conning tower base with a double wintergarden? Or if there is a diagram lurking online?

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2016, 12:18:37 PM »

Like this?

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2016, 01:43:47 PM »

Is there no depth you won't sink to

... to be helpful?  %) Thanks.

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2016, 11:27:34 PM »

http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?sh40300

I followed a few links and ended upon a French thread. There's nine pages with lots of old U Boat pics to look at including a good few boat's emblems. I have only a little french so I guess I missed a lot of info.

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2016, 08:35:53 PM »

Yes Trevor go for it - and add a nice deck gun. Which navy?

Dave

         Well having blown the dust off it was apparent that the superstructure had suffered more than just a little bit of 'shed rash' and so the best move there was to convert in into heat via the log-burner and start again. That's one advantage of working in wood!
          Anyway after a couple of evenings work my Springer has got a new superstructure which I hope looks suitably 'cartoonish' as befitting a submarine tug .
          Don't laugh too loudly at the AA armament because I know the absolute square root of nothing about naval weaponry so it's - a bit heavy duty maybe- sort of an Oerlikon on steroids.
          A submarine has absolutely got to have torpedo tubes even if it is tug in disguise, and so a cling film roll provided the tubes for those, a really hard and strong cardboard which should be suitably waterproof once soaked in varnish.
          A sub needs a periscope even one that doesn't dive - - - well I hope that it won't, though folk have told me that Springers can poke the nose down when going briskly.
          Next will be a few bits of bridge equipment, a compass at least.

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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2016, 08:48:26 PM »

    The other thing that needed to be started afresh was the propshaft/sterntube as the shaft did not run true, so I've made it as a combined motor mount/gearbox/ stern tube unit that has a miniature ballrace at the inboard end and a lip seal at the wet end. This is actually a part from an abandoned submarine project and the reduction is 2.5:1 . The assembly will then bolted onto the hull with a seal and the prop end will be supported in an A frame, but I couldn't get any 'shed time' today to drill all the holes and cut a seal,

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Re: Submarines general
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2016, 02:42:23 PM »

Is there no depth you won't sink to

... to be helpful? 

There is, and there one or two in this hobby who have chosen to test that to the limit.

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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2016, 02:57:54 PM »

Sub's needs a hatch Trevor - looking like a fun build though  O0
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