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[boxer]

hi all

currently building a skegness open top bus and wandering bout the paintwork.

Some of the designs are quite colourfull and wandering best way to tackle.

any advice or tips appreciated

not sure what one yet but here is "rocky " to give you an idea


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=skegness+busses&biw=1347&bih=708&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiarMzsiObLAhUnlnIKHVPwCdIQ_AUIBigB&dpr=0.95#imgrc=uObOZWH0mKmO3M%3A

[boxer]

also text

what is best way to replicate this

back of bus

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rocky+the+seasider&biw=1347&bih=708&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZq-yYiubLAhXChiwKHd_DBboQsAQIGw&dpr=0.95#imgdii=Bcm6ctH6TFojGM%3A%3BBcm6ctH6TFojGM%3A%3B9qdiUvMvrLPKaM%3A&imgrc=Bcm6ctH6TFojGM%3A

[rickles23]

Hi,


I have to do the designs for HO Model trains.


I have permission from Australia Rail to copy any design.


Firstly I get a good photo of the design either via the Internet or camera.


Then into Photoshop to tidy up and to re-size them.


Then you can print them to the Transfer Paper that's available.


Or as I do do now I print them on Clear Post Labels


Then a final coat of Clear Paint.


Regards

[Netleyned]

Tug Kenny on here has just done a
Stagecoach single decker and will
probably tell you that the normal paint
job ain't easy.


Rickles idea sounds the best way round the problem.
Pick up camera and Hey Ho off to the delights of Skeggy.


Ned

[tigertiger]

I would say the same thing. Make, or have made, decals.


I don't know about UK but all of the buses I see have skins for advertising. A bit like a giant decal really.


The issue would be transitioning to the roof.


Looking at Rocky, you could paint the colours (green, red, blue, yellow) masking in the usual way, and then use white pinstripe tape (used for car paint jobs) in between. That will allow you to do the more fine lines with ease.
The black text you could print yourself with decal paper, but white decal paper  would require more careful trimming for the white text. You might be better getting those few decals produced professionally.

[rickles23]

Hi,


The stripes are easy.


Masking tape the sides and then with a sharp knife cut out your lines.


It may seem an odd way to do it but the nearest model shop is a week's postage away.


Regards

[boxer]

when you say stripes are easy can you elaborate, never done a paintjob like this before

pic to show rocky

[rickles23]

Hi,


Make a copy of the stripes and reduce to size.


Cover the sides of the bus with masking tape


Draw on the stripes


Steel ruler and sharp knife cut out the part of the stripe that you are painting.


Paint.


Another way a good mate of mine does it for small models is to get the pin striping tape from Auto Accessories and stick to the sides and trim to size.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9TWppPWZ8

or just type 'painting stripes on model buses' into Google.



Regards

[inertia]

The methods suggested all seem to have the white paint going on top of the other colours. That would take a helluva lot of white paint! I would paint the whole bus white to begin with, then use tape to mask off the strips which need to remain white and overpaint the other colours one at a time. You're not having to take a sharp knife near the model that way, either.

Transfers are fine except that no-one has invented white ink. White areas come out transparent so if you make a waterslide for that big circular thingy at the back then it will have to go onto a white-painted circular background. Probably the best way would be to have the coloured letters made from S/A vinyl and supplied on a carrier sheet, already set in a circular layout. You'd need a different sheet for each colour of course, but I know at least one Mayhem member who can do such stuff with ease...    It would be a doddle for Callie.
DM

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

I have used Inertia's suggested way and here is the result.

The wording can done on special white background waterslide transfers, obtainable on line.

Cheers

ken.

[inertia]

white background waterslide transfers, obtainable on line.

Do you have a link for this, Kenny?
Dave M

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

Certainly, Dave.

Here is my supplier.  I can't speak too highly as they do come out rather well.  Important to spray varnish them after printing and to cut them out before you get them wet.   Large areas are to be avoided until you get used to sliding them gently off the wet backing paper. They are very flimsy when wet so great care sliding them orf   !!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181840164873?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&var=480788511981&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Here's some I did earlier.

[boxer]

is that bus scratch or kit built.... certainly a fabulous looking model 

[tigertiger]

With the water slide transfers mentioned above. Important notes.


Firstly, and very importantly.
There are two types of paper. One for inkjet printers, another for laser-jet printers. Make sure you order the right paper for your type of printer.
I think the laserjet printer does not need to be coated with lacquer before doing the waster slide operation.


Secondly,
There are two colors of paper. Clear and white. White will give you a white background and is better for light colors. But you must have some background printed as it is a solid white, but you can print over it.
If you use the clear, to lay onto a strong colored background, the color will show through.

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

is that bus scratch or kit built.... certainly a fabulous looking model 

Thank you very much. It is scratch built.  I have a YouTube film if you have 10 mins to waste, here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXaKEr4Xn0

Sorry to divert tour Blog,  Boxer.

Cheers

ken

[inertia]

Thanks, for that, Ken, and thanks for the caveats, Mark.
I can actually remember making my own waterslide transfers by putting several coats of non-shrinking clear dope on the adhesive side of brown parcel tape (the type you moisten to make it sticky) then painting the design with enamel or coloured dope, varnishing it several times over the top and finally cutting it out, soaking it and sliding it in place. I can't remember which magazine the article was but I know the author and artist was Peter Holland - a real character, a fine draftsman and a very clever modeller.
It was a bit hit and miss - modern inkjet printers and papers make the whole process so much easier.
Dave M

[boxer]

good advice guys learned a lot in a few answers

I have a caravan at chapel st leonards hence we see the seasider buses as there called a lot.

yet to catch up with it to get some decent photos but the back is here what i am trying to replicate

so after reading looks like white backed transfer paper would make it easier

off to skegness today to try and catch up with one

pic of back of rocky

[rickles23]

Hi,


Easiest way to do that circle is to use the centre of a CD label with text or pictures and reduce to size.


For a model ship I have just made some 1/72 scale World War Two Propaganda posters for a mess deck and also a few of those Leroy was here figures.


Amazing what you can come up with.


regards

[Crossie]

Thanks, for that, Ken, and thanks for the caveats, Mark.
I can actually remember making my own waterslide transfers by putting several coats of non-shrinking clear dope on the adhesive side of brown parcel tape (the type you moisten to make it sticky) then painting the design with enamel or coloured dope, varnishing it several times over the top and finally cutting it out, soaking it and sliding it in place. I can't remember which magazine the article was but I know the author and artist was Peter Holland - a real character, a fine draftsman and a very clever modeller.
It was a bit hit and miss - modern inkjet printers and papers make the whole process so much easier.
Dave M

  Yes this method definitely works and occasionally  I still use it, the first time that I read the method was in a 1940 something  Aeromodeller as a lad in the late 50's. A good aspect of the method is that you can make the film as thick or thin as you wish and use just about any paint type or spirit based inks, and if you need wider than the standard 2" gummed brown tape, use gummed paper squares which are  6"x 6" - - -or probably the metric equivalent now. For a coloured background use coloured dope.

                                                Trevor

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

If you are planning on copying this 'Advert on the bus' then I recommend taking a picture of the original  'square on' and scaling this on the computer. It can then be used as the master for your transfer.

Also worth noting is loads of  'Square on' pictures of all the sides of the bus along with it's real height and length.  These prove very handy when comes to measurements and re-scaling calculations as the model shape will fall into place.

All the best

ken