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RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« on: March 20, 2018, 04:20:08 pm »


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-43476222

BBC news has said one ejector seat was seen,

hope both people are ok
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 04:24:38 pm »

Rather worrying- hope they are okay. What concerns me is that there were two onboard which indicates that the individual in the back seat is going to be an engineer. Iíve got a few mates on the Arrows fingers crossed everyone is okay.
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 04:28:27 pm »

welsh ambulance are there along with welsh air ambulance  sounds like both were on scene pretty quick which is a good thing
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 06:41:17 pm »

Just heard through the RAF grapevine that Red 3 had a bird strike and the pilot just got out but the techie in the back seat didnít. <:(
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 06:44:02 pm »

It's on the news now.
Sadly the back seat guy didn't make it.
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 06:49:20 pm »

Just heard through the RAF grapevine that Red 3 had a bird strike and the pilot just got out but the techie in the back seat didnít. <:(


cant the seats eject at the same time?
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 06:55:17 pm »

No, there is a slight time delay to prevent both seats hitting each other. And it also depends on the selection switch in the rear cockpit- if was selected to Both, the rear seat would have ejected first then the pilot but I fear that it was selected to Rear so they can eject separately incase of inadvertent activation by the rear seat occupant.
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 07:05:14 pm »

diidnt know i thought it was at least milliseconds  <:( <:(   
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 07:13:04 pm »

Itís not much time delay but I think itís no longer than one second, the g-force is truly powerful and reduces the pilotís spine by an inch. Usually the selector is only put to Both in known combat conditions with the rear seat occupant with their hands on the handle just incase.
I know three engineers on the Arrows who all fly in the back seat- itís a sad day  <:(
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2018, 10:14:05 pm »

A very sad day indeed. A birdstrike seems so unlikely given the tiny fuselage mounted intakes on the Hawk, and not having time for both crew to punch out seems so unlikely too, but evidently all the planets aligned today and someone didn't get to go home  {:-{
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 10:20:28 pm »

i heard rumours that they were about 600 feet off the ground
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 10:20:50 pm »

Yes truly a sad day- one of my mates has checked in to let me know whoís okay- understandably no name of the engineer will be published. RIP to the chap in Blue overalls.
McGherkin- Doesnít have to go down the intake to cause catastrophic damage particularly to a flying control such as an elevator or an aileron.
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 10:22:49 pm »

are the engineers called blue arrows or blue suits  i know they have a nickname they do a little timed show when reds take off that public don't get to see
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 10:23:51 pm »

Having  worked on a Hawk a bird can go down the intake and cause  a catastrophic engine damage


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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 10:33:38 pm »

Hi Smudger


The Blues do the see-off and see-in of the Red Arrows to what can be described as marshalling by numbers so they do all together resulting in the aircraft taxiing at the same time- quite spectacular if you get to see it.
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Re: RAF Red Arrows Jet Crash at RAF Valley North Wales
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 10:35:29 pm »

Hi Smudger


The Blues do the see-off and see-in of the Red Arrows to what can be described as marshalling by numbers so they do all together resulting in the aircraft taxiing at the same time- quite spectacular if you get to see it.


yeah that's what i mean but i can never get to see it only on tv docs,  even at RIAT you don't see it,  such a shame
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