Topic: Messiest Tool? (Read 5108 times)

Brian60 · « **on:** April 13, 2016, 11:34:30 am »

OK so my wife thinks I'm a complete tool

but hey ho.

This morning I was cutting a groove in a sheet of 20mm plywood. When I had finished the job and began to clean up (yes I do sometimes) I realised just how much mess a router makes. There was sawdust and woodchips all over the place. Back in the UK I used to have an old pull along vacumn (called a Henry) that got plugged into the power tools and sucked it up at source, but since moving here I've never had the router out and forgot just how messy they are.

Can anyone beat a router for mess?

Captain fizz · « **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2016, 11:52:06 am »

That is a tricky one Brian, the router indeed being a master of mess.
The electric planer comes a close second.
I have gradually replaced most of my portable kit with Festool with one of their dust extraction units.
They are pricey, but great quality

nemesis · « **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2016, 11:53:20 am »

try cutting the groove by other means and see how long it takes and equate that with vacuuming up afterwards. Nemesis

david48 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 13, 2016, 12:13:51 pm »

I think a hand held disk sander takes some beating for mess ,dust so fine you do not notice it until you move something , I have made more mess with a chain saw then can be cleaned up outside .
As you say Brian wood cutting just is a messy job whatever way you look at it ,vac or no vac .
David

Brian60 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 13, 2016, 12:32:38 pm »

The only time I have made more mess than this with a power tool was 4 years ago. I was using a 9 inch angle grinder to cut out a doorway in a brick wall. The house was undergoing renovation by my son so was empty. Good job as everything in every single room turned red! Even though we had hung plastic sheet over doorways etc, the stuff managed to pervade every room in the house.

nivapilot · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2016, 02:50:48 pm »

Try a wood turning lathe for mess....can't beat it....by the time you have turned down a 6" oak log to 4", you'll be standing knee deep in chippings......and then sand it.......everything, and I do mean everything, will get coated in chips and dust.

tigertiger · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:13:09 pm »

Using a planer/thicknesser makes a mess, but this is mostly just a big pile of chippings and shavings that travels out about 2m, but no dust floating up. Unlike sanding.

raflaunches · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:26:37 pm »

My messiest tool is my dynafile, no matter how you try you still find a fine layer of saw dust, GRP dust, metal swarf, etc weeks after its use in the boat workshop!

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2016, 03:40:20 pm »

DA Sander.... now that's a messy tool

ballastanksian · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:30:32 pm »

I agree about the lathe. I turned a bowl to form the hull for my 1:50th scale Novgorod at college about twenty years ago (crikey, where did those years go

) and I filled three rubbish bins with MDF swarf, chips and dust.

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:56:13 pm »

By far the messiest tool is my 12'' disc sander. I have a garage full of items that have a layer of dust. It sticks to all the surfaces and coats everything. It's why I wear a mask and goggles. I also have a 'henry' vac but it doesn't fit well onto my sander.

Crossie · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2016, 10:07:37 pm »

Definitely a disc sander !

roycv · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2016, 01:22:18 am »

Hi Bastanksian, Back in the 90's I had business with a company that made worktops from MDF. There was no dust at all, it was all sucked up and fed straight into the heating system for the factory.
I knew the two guys that ran the place and they were very proud of that, gave them over half of the heat used in the place and free twice over as it did not have to be disposed of either.
regards Roy

derekwarner · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2016, 03:45:33 am »

Guys.......without getting too far off track

......it appears that the dust from machining MDF is not a recommended material to breathe or ingest

...........

Apart from that I personally find it an objectionable

material in any form of model making ...........Derek
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Plastic - RIP · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2016, 06:28:42 am »

I think you're all wrong - the messiest tool is easily the plasterer's trowel.

Having just one room skimmed means that an entire house in covered in plaster dust, the garden is littered with debris and leftover bags & plaster, every bucket is full of muck, all the clothes in the house have pink dust embedded, all carpets are gritty, the driveway where the van parked has a halo of pink powder, every window is filthy - no matter how many precautions you take - even hermetically sealing off the room.

Captain fizz · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:48:47 am »

You need to find another plasterer!

Plastic - RIP · « **Reply #16 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:55:55 am »

Quote from: Captain fizz on April 14, 2016, 07:48:47 am

You need to find another plasterer!

Waaaay ahead of you.

So much for recommendations....would have been better off with a random bloke from the Yellow Pages.

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:56:53 am »

Plastic ....... Ha ha that brings back memories

html · « **Reply #18 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:56:25 am »

For me it is my detail/palm sander, it has a dust bag which is supposed to collect all the dust. Yeah Right! I find very little dust in the bag after use, but the rest of the shed, covered.
I have tried a vacuum cleaner attached to it, do not tell the wife but even a Dyson DC53 animal does not work and I then have to clean the hepa filters in the vacuum cleaner.
The most effective way I have found to collect the dust, is to hold the vacuum close to the area being sanded. That is a bit of a pain when you need to hold the item being sanded as well.

Brian

Norseman · « **Reply #19 on:** April 14, 2016, 05:26:54 pm »

Scaffolding tube

I used it to pull down a plaster and lathe ceiling, plus a hundred years plus of dust from the bedroom above. Now that was what I call a mess

Tug Hercules Fireman · « **Reply #20 on:** April 14, 2016, 05:53:38 pm »

For dust collection where I need a "Third Hand" is use the tool shown in the picture. You can place it or aim it where needed, then sand away.

I have also made up down draft tables for sanding and they take 99.7% of the dust out of the air.

Buccaneer · « **Reply #21 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:36:03 pm »

You have to go some to beat the general mess left around the whole house by my son when he moved back in after University. Fortunately he now has a house of his own. When the wife gets going in the kitchen cooking for friends or a Church Do it's not much different. Every Pot, Pan, Knife, fork and Spoon seems to be required. Yes you can feel sorry for the poor bloke that gets to do the washing up!

John

Nemo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:24:20 pm »

The messiest tool I ever knew was when in the army. We had a civvie fitter in the workshop known to all as 'Greasy Jake' but no-one ever found out his real first name. His overalls were never washed and lasted for months before being replaced. There was enough grease and oil on them, to launch a small vessel - and the smell!! Bets were taken on when Jakes new overalls would appear but much dosh was lost as he always outlasted our guessing. Odd thing was he built a beautiful river cruiser that he kept in immaculate condition on the River Wey at Guildford .

tigertiger · « **Reply #23 on:** April 15, 2016, 01:41:48 pm »

Downdraft tables.
Very easy to make and well worth the effort. Loads of tutorials and plans via youtube. There is even one that is incorporated into the end of a bench. You just pop out a solid wood panel and insert the peg board material.
All you need is a shop vac and a connector. A note on shop vacs. Very often these are cheaper than the domestic variety, and the big ones don't even have a bag to empty.

Starspider · « **Reply #24 on:** April 15, 2016, 03:45:42 pm »

Got to go with the wood turning lathe. I have a dust/chip extractor and when sanding I also use a cheap shop vac gaffer taped to lathe and still the filters in my powered daft Vader mask clog up, plus the whole workshop has a fine layer of dust over it.
Colin

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