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• Mayhem at Wicksteed!: May 27, 2017 - May 28, 2017

[Stavros]

Just remeber Phil if you loose your teeth then you can allways borrow mine and versa visy 






Dave

[JayDee]

Phil,


If you are bringing your brushless Straight Runner- - I will bring my brushless Yacht !!!!!.


John.     

[SteamboatPhil]

Strange that John, I was going to bring my straight running yacht......and with my sailing straight....hummmm......just as bendy then 

[JayDee]

 

[JayDee]

Hello,

We have lots of different sized yachts at the Mayhem Event.
Normally yacht races are set up for yachts all of the same size, or class.
Bigger yachts are usually faster than small yachts.
But there are ways of racing different sized yachts together !!.

All of the yachts set off together.
All the yachts are timed how long they took to finish the course.
The fastest yacht starts the next lap LAST !!!.
The slowest starts FIRST !!!.
All of the other boats start according to their finishing time.

Any BIG changes in times can be adjusted to keep things in order.
The Birkenhead and Fleetwood Clubs use this method - - I have sailed in races using it and it works !.

It all works a treat !, after the first  race - - also timed, corrections can be made to the start times for following races.

John. 

[Waz]

I hope to be bringing the paddle steamer and also the tamar lifeboat, and I'll bring the Britannia sailing yacht as a display item as it's not in sailing condition as it hasn't got sails.

[Colin Bishop]

Is there.an actual programme of events or is it just a free for all on the water? It all sounds a bit disorganised at the moment.

A published timetable for the two days would be helpful.



Colin

[raflaunches]

Hi Colin


As usual most of the actual sailing will be free sailing however events (for example the WW1 battle fleet from last year) will have times agreed on the day and announced over the PA system to clear the lake to allow these events to be seen effectively and safely. A section of the lake is sectioned off for smaller boats for example plastic magic boats to use without interference from normal or larger sized models.
There is a frequency control board in the Mayhem tent to have a central control point of the radios.

[Klunk]

Just remeber Phil if you loose your teeth then you can allways borrow mine and versa visy 

shudder shudder brrrrrrrrrrrrr




Dave

[Stavros]

Regimentation has never worked at the Mayhem event it is all about fun not regimented flipping timetables


.
Dave

[Colin Bishop]

Thanks Nick,

I must confess that I lean towards building rather than sailing these days. To be honest, after half an hour or so I find free sailing a bit boring although I accept it is the norm now. It's a while since I have been to Wicksteed as I am not usually free that weekend and I wondered how things are run these days. My models are scale, on the small side and fragile and when I last visited I didn't like to put them on the water along within the much faster and larger boats rushing around. The introduction of a 'safe area' is a good idea and I'm sure is appreciated.

I don't know if I will be free this year either and my drive to Wicksteed involves negotiating half of the M25 in both directions which inevitably means spending a lot of time in traffic jams, especially on a holiday weekend.

In my younger days I was happy to drive all over the country to MPBA steering events but today's road conditions are rather a deterrent and there seem to be very few steering course regattas now which is what used to really interest me.

I will make up my own mind nearer the time but I am sure it will be a great event for all who attend.

Colin

[Martin (Admin)]

Pitch up, bring a boat!    


( Scheduled could expanded a little I guess! )

Is there.an actual programme of events or is it just a free for all on the water? It all sounds a bit disorganised at the moment.

A published timetable for the two days would be helpful.



Colin

[Martin (Admin)]

OK, OK,  if you are thinking of coming, who's interested in what?
( In no particular priority ... )

1.  Free sailing?
2.  Scale sale? ( Not sure what that actually means! )
3.  Yacht races?
4.  Springer tugs?
5.  Club 500?
6.  Tug type events?
7.  Steering competition?
8.  Blind Steering competition?
9.  Straight running?
10.  Tethered Hydro
11.  Multi Racing
12.  RC Warship Combat
13.  Anything too fast, very noisy, dangerous, illegal, etc, etc!
14.  Fun boat competition?
15.  Concours de Elegance?

......... what else?

 Martin

[Colin Bishop]

I think you have put your finger on it there Martin. In my view, whether I come or not(!), there should indeed be a mixture of free sailing plus themed sessions but if you attempt too many then none of them will be done properly! Each one needs a bit of organisation and you shouldn't spread yourself too thin in this respect.

If you have a steering course then that has to be set out and presumably the Wicksteed club will have to provide the obstacles. Nick has already said that part of the lake will be partitioned off for small models and it would make sense to fit the steering course into this and designate that area for 'sedate' models rather than just small ones. This would give the opportunity for people to test their skills in handling their scale models. Making it competitive would add to the organisational overhead so maybe drop that but it is still fun to steer round obstacles and carry out dockings etc. to show how well the models can be controlled as opposed to driving battleships around free sailing at 50+ scale knots!

Tug towing is always popular and maybe this could be done around the steering course mentioned above.

Springers - these are associated with things like water football. Might be worth a punt but only if enough are present.

I think Phil Abbott and Dave Jones have got straight running pretty well organised in the past so just give them some sessions to organise and oversee.

It sounds like a 'Warship Parade' would be popular so maybe some sessions dedicated to warships showing off their paces around the free sailing area.

Yacht races and Club 500 races need to be properly organised and run so would need to be sorted out in advance with people to be responsible for them. Not something you can really muddle through on the day and they also require a fair bit of time which could eat into the time for other activities. The amount of interest needs to be established before the event to see if it is worth running.

Scale sail is just the yachting equivalent of motorised free sailing except that the boats can't so easily get out of the way. So just a 'sail' free sailing session perhaps if there are enough models to justify it.

Concours - yes, that could be done on the bank but you will need a set of rules for the judges to work to - maybe easier said than done these days when the distinctions between RTR, Ebay sourced, kits, semi kits and scratchbuilt models are increasingly blurred. A Mayhem event doesn't really lend itself to the application of specific judging rules.  Perhaps just best for you, Martin, to take a general overview and make awards on the basis of your personal preferences. Nobody can then argue with that.

The above would all provide a bit of variety from just free sailing

Just my thoughts anyway,

Colin

[Stavros]

For the last 5 years and due to your request Colin the lake was sectioned into 3...small delecate craft
..bottom end...a straight running course....and a general sailing area....so something for everyone




Dave

[ballastanksian]

I intend to bring HMS Ready and HMS M19 so a WW1 warship regatta would be nice to share one's mini fleet in.

Free sailing plus periods for Faster models, Special models (Those that are entertaining and quirky) Warships-general and the like would be great.

A Cabin cruiser concourse sail would be nice if the weather is like last year 

[Klunk]

How many times has this been planned, written up and then not happened.

[JayDee]

Hello,


"How many times has this been planned, written up and then not happened."


Yet the weekend has always been very, very enjoyable.


John. 

[Klunk]

Jaydee Precisely . This is not an inflammatory post, but an advisory that has been tried over many years at mathem.

It does not necessarily need to be structured for every minute of the day. There us a safe area for shallow or fragile boats. Steering course for those that want to have a go. Last year we never put out the straight running course and that opened up the lake. Club 500 and fast electrics can have a section of the lake just get together then go ask Martin so the lake can be cleared. Same as when the Ww1 review happened last year. If its going to be so structured like Warwick pool (which I understand) then a lot of people will get annoyed. The whole spirit of mayhem is exactly that. Mayhem. Not in any way to destroy boats or to put people off. If you want to do a demo, find peeps with similar boats ie steam, sail, fragile, plastic magic etc and ask. We all want to see these boats on the water. But as for having a set structure......lol you seen the weather I the past?

[Klunk]

Sorry I mentioned the "w" word ......we're doooooomed

[ballastanksian]

Sorry I mentioned the "w" word ......we're doooooomed

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 

[Martin (Admin)]

OK, invoice Klunk if your gazebo get torn away in a anti-cyclone!   

[Klunk]

Long range forecast for that weekend is bacon rolls tea bbq .....nuff said

[Martin (Admin)]

You want bacon rolls again Sunday morning?!?!? 

[SteamboatPhil]

I Like the idea of a sort of sailing schedule, cos in the entertainment industry our schedules run to time for the first 20 mins then all hell breaks loose   so this would seem perfect for the weekend. I can bring a flip chart and pens and we can make things up as they happen
But an outline of the day would be good........hummmm


Now I just have to put back all the nice fittings on my springer after my 4 year grandaughter cleaned it...and her mum wouldn't let me give her some super glue to fix it