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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2016, 12:48:04 pm »

Andy D72

I smoked for 35 years and then gave up 15 years ago. My reasons are mine and no business of anyone else. Smokers all know the risks they are taking without having to be reminded at every opportunity. I don't like the smell of cigarette smoke and I try to avoid those doorways where smokers now have to gather, but I don't and I won't sneer at them or regard myself as somehow superior or more intelligent/sensitive than they are - just because I quit.  They choose to smoke. I choose not to. End of.

I once stood outside an abattoir on a frosty November morning, watching the steam rise from a huge bin of fresh entrails as a smiling man with blood up to his elbows separated the sinews while carrying on a conversation with me - as if he were just shelling peas. You don't forget that in a hurry (it was around 1982, at a company called Nottingham Animal By-Products).

I'm 64 years old. I know where food comes from. I'm not stupid and I don't need to be made to feel as if I'm somehow complicit in all the sins of the meat industry as I seal a steak or grill a chop. Although I can easily understand it I have no interest in why you gave up eating meat, Andy, and the fact that you did will not change my eating habits one iota. As Andy Nightingale so rightly said, I don't mock others for their choices and I don't expect to be patronised, questioned or lectured about mine.

As for 'veggie bashing', I believe all I said was that in my own experience vegans are a nuisance when one is buying a round of cream cakes or drinks. And Jason Gillespie? Round here we'd call him a gob on a stick.

Fried haloumi sandwich, anyone?  8)
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2016, 01:57:05 pm »

Hi All
I gave up smoking 30 years ago, but, I still like a beer!!!
I spend my fag money on model boats.
What you eat is your own business.
So enjoy life!!!

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And no I do not smoke their!!!!!
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2016, 02:50:41 pm »

Interesting about the methods of slaughtering animals putting people off meat.

If you take a look at Youtube and look up the Scott Rea Project.  This is a skilled butcher of 20 years +. He shows how to prepare and butcher whole carcasses and cuts of meat and poultry.

BUT and here is the big but, he does not like the slaughtering of animals! There is one of his videos in which he explains that he cannot step foot in a slaughterhouse because he considers them as animals. Only when they are delivered to his shops as carcasses can he consider them as meat for preparation. He does not like to dwell on the aspects of the before, but he does think it necessary for people who eat meat to know exactly where it comes from and not just appear wrapped in plastic at Tesco.

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2016, 04:02:43 pm »

Going back to cricket balls ... no, I wouldn't be happy if animals were being bred and slaughtered purely to provide leather for sports. But I expect that this is hide that is a byproduct of the food industry, in which case I'd prefer that this was used for something (I was going to say useful, but not sure sport counts) with a purpose rather than being discarded and using other raw materials like oil to make "artificial" materials. The argument could be extended to footwear and clothing too.
Actually, crude oil is an animal product, so most plastics are not 'vegan' either  :-)

It's all a compromise really - eliminating animal products from our lives completely is simply never going to happen, but reduced use and better treatment of them is certainly possible.

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2016, 04:09:18 pm »

OK so what is the difference and how is it healthy for you.
Common sense, which is long dead, says it can't be good for you. Particularly eating a cricket ball. :o  :o  :o
So where is the balanced diet and all that, is it soccer balls, golf balls, etc,  {:-{  {:-{  {:-{ does it, being Vegan make one a little touchy  %) %) %)

I was not defending either - just pointing out that we seemed to be going off the topic.  %)
As a carnivore, I could not care less what other people eat.
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2016, 05:55:21 pm »

I was not defending either - just pointing out that we seemed to be going off the topic.  %)
As a carnivore, I could not care less what other people eat.


If you eat only meat you are a carnivore.
If you eat only vegetation you are a herbivore.
If you eat meat and vegetation you are an omnivore.


I love my omniverous Sunday lunch - roast beef and all the trimmings....oh yeah!
( Sometimes  lamb or pork or chicken - I am married to a superb cook ) however, my daughter-in-law is a vegetarian and when she comes to lunch we will always have a veggie option an some of the Quorn products aren't bad at all.
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2016, 10:24:42 pm »

Well the thread seems to have gone from light hearted japes about (daft) vegan cricket balls to full on unprovoked veggie/vegan bashing. Good on Andy for being as restrained in his response as he has been.

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2016, 10:30:17 pm »


Fried haloumi sandwich, anyone?  8)

Yes please, with olives and genuine, salami {-) {-) {-)
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2016, 12:49:14 am »

I suspect this is the future.


3d printed leather and meat. No animals required.


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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2016, 09:19:40 pm »

  I've never understood what the vegans have against dairy products. The strictest vegetarians are probably the Jains, a religion with outlook and iconography pretty similar to Buddhism. They won't eat potatoes or onions because pulling them up kills the plant, yet they eat dairy products on the basis that the cow is not harmed in giving the milk.
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2016, 11:43:08 pm »

I've never understood what the vegans have against dairy products.


The large-scale production of milk requires that calves don't get it.


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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2016, 02:22:39 am »

 :-) a few questions.....[without Political undertones]

1. Do they play cricket in Scotland?...[I have never heard of a Scottish cricket team]
2. Has Scotland left England yet?

If the answer to the above is Yes & No.... {-).....then.....

3. Can they make Hal Hal certified Haggis? to make it Kosha?
4. Would Hal Hal certified Haggis then be considered as Kosha/Vergin? and as such suitable for the covering of your balls? [cricket that is] :o
5. If the answer to 2. was No, will Scotland vote to leave the EU?
6. If the answer to 5. was Yes, what will the be the implications for the Export price of Haggis & Whiskey?

We have a new Cricket ball in OZ.......it is Pink with black stitching %)

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2016, 06:27:19 am »

There was an an article published recently that suggested that plants do have a degree of awareness and respond to stimuli which, if true, would raise all sorts of moral issues.

We boil peas alive!

Maybe Prince Charles was right after all.

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2016, 08:49:25 am »

There was an an article published recently that suggested that plants do have a degree of awareness and respond to stimuli which, if true, would raise all sorts of moral issues.

Colin
It usually happens when the adverts come on and they get up for a cuppa or a pee......

Derek
There certainly is a Scottish cricket team although they're not up to international Test Match standard. I think they play in the Minor Counties league.
That's Halal, Kosher and Whisky - please. I thought you were a bit of a gourmet...

A pink cricket ball?? In Australia???!!!  :kiss:
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2016, 09:21:36 am »



Derek
There certainly is a Scottish cricket team although they're not up to international Test Match standard. I think they play in the Minor Counties league.
That's Halal, Kosher and Whisky - please. I thought you were a bit of a gourmet...

A pink cricket ball?? In Australia???!!!  :kiss:
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 :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o He meant in New South Wales home of the Blues.  %)  %)  %)
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« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2016, 11:13:36 am »

My goodness......"That's Halal, Kosher and Whisky"

Is this bloke trying to start WW3  %).....?

It is clear he understands Single Malt Whisky  O0...but lets keep the universal H = hotel & K = Kilo

Our local Rabai has just chucked a sickie.......so it looks like the ever popular  pink Pigs Pork Trotters  w apple sauce are off the menu @ the Pub tonight <*<

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2016, 12:16:32 pm »

Derek
'Halal, Kosher and Whisky' is a local firm of pork butchers run by one Muhammad McGoldblum - Vice-Captain of the Scottish Cricket 3rd XI; visiting Professor of Animal Husbandry at The University of The Gorbals and Laird of the Clan McGoldblum (and quite probably its only member). He also holds the Highland record for one-legged, underwater bagpipe playing.

(You are a bl**dy philistine.......but I like your style  :kiss: )

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(...and it's rabbai...... ;D )
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2016, 12:29:56 pm »

:-) a few questions.....[without Political undertones]

1. Do they play cricket in Scotland?...[I have never heard of a Scottish cricket team]
2. Has Scotland left England yet?

If the answer to the above is Yes & No.... {-).....then.....

3. Can they make Hal Hal certified Haggis? to make it Kosha?
4. Would Hal Hal certified Haggis then be considered as Kosha/Vergin? and as such suitable for the covering of your balls? [cricket that is] :o
5. If the answer to 2. was No, will Scotland vote to leave the EU?
6. If the answer to 5. was Yes, what will the be the implications for the Export price of Haggis & Whiskey?

We have a new Cricket ball in OZ.......it is Pink with black stitching %)

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http://www.cricketscotland.com/international-news-cricket-scotland/
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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2016, 06:27:42 pm »

Will the killing of the Haggis be in line with Halal ?


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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2016, 07:00:54 pm »

Will the killing of the Haggis be in line with Halal ?
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A better line would be down "The Corridor of Uncertainty" i.e. just outside the off-stump. However Halal's bowling is not of sufficient pace to be able to exploit that technique unless the batsman is equipped only with a stick of rhubarb from Mrs Boycott's garden. The McGoldblum of McGoldblum's feared reverse-sweep shot would dispatch such "pie-throwing" over the Third Man boundary - where it richly deserves to be. A pink ball would only compound the degree of punishment...  :o
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« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2016, 07:00:57 pm »

No, it involves a complex ritual utilising a claymore and a sporran.

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Re: A vegan-friendly cricket ball???
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2016, 09:17:54 pm »

Claymore, sporran, pink balls . . . . what were we talking about?
Next thing you know they'll be wanting to make cricket bats out of aluminium to avoid upsetting any passing Ents.
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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2016, 11:05:16 pm »

It's been done, Malc, but more for a quick A$ than for upsetting tree-guardians  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ComBat
We were talking balls as I recall (as opposed to bats, of course...) %)
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« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2016, 10:01:02 am »

It's been done, Malc, but more for a quick A$ than for upsetting tree-guardians  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ComBat
We were talking balls as I recall (as opposed to bats, of course...) %)
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Indeed, much of this thread is talking balls.  About balls, I mean.
I think that just made it worse.


I wonder what the Wolf of Kabul would have managed with an aluminium Clicky-ba?
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