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[TailUK]

I was looking for information on Royal Navy Ensigns and found this which I thought might interest the Mayhemers.  It's a pdf document on the protocols of flying the National Flag.

http://www.flaginstitute.org/pdfs/Flying_Flags_in_the_United_Kingdom.pdf

Interesting stuff!

[andyram]

Good find you made.Very interesting reading.

Thanks.
Andy.

[Capt Podge]

Just had a quick flick through a couple of pages - looks very interesting - saved for reading later.

Many thanks for sharing...

Regards,

Ray.

[Jerry C]

I couldn't find a picture of an undefaced blue ensign?????
Jerry.

[Netleyned]

The author obviously is not an RNSA member nor a member of the other
few clubs authorised to issue a warrant for a member to fly the undefaced
blue ensign.


Ned

[Jerry C]

As far as I am aware only ships (or boats) with the master or a significant proportion of the crew serving or having served in the RNR are allowed a warrant (after paying an exorbitant fee) to fly the Blue Ensign. My old boys association (HMS Worcester) yacht club fly the Blue Ensign defaced by a gold crown. Again a very large membership fee. The article did say that no laws govern flags so maybe I can fly the Blue Ensign without sanction. I reckon after 25 years service that I'm entitled anyway. I've emailed them to ask what the score really is.
Jerry.

[Netleyned]

Nowt to do with RNR members in a crew.
As an RN or RNR Serviceman/Woman, past or present,
you can become a memberof the RNSA which is one of
twenty yacht clubs that can issue a warrant entitling the holder
to fly the blue ensign (undefaced) on any vessel they are aboard.
At a cost, as you say Jerry.
You could also join the Royal Yacht Squadron and fly the White Ensign
at amuch greatet cost

Ned

[TheLongBuild]

Nowt to do with RNR members in a crew.
As an RN or RNR Serviceman/Woman, past or present,
you can become a memberof the RNSA which is one of
twenty yacht clubs that can issue a warrant entitling the holder
to fly the blue ensign (undefaced) on any vessel they are aboard.
At a cost, as you say Jerry.
You could also join the Royal Yacht Squadron and fly the White Ensign
at amuch greatet cost

Out of interest what would happen if you did fly them without joining anything ?
Ned

[Netleyned]

Not a lot IMHO


Ned

[TheLongBuild]

Not a lot IMHO


Ned

Reminds me the time my Grand Father, a Lieutenant Commander was on one ship but needed to be on another ship and the only available Barge to get him across was the Admirals, who he was good friends with so he said to take that, however as the crew were not expecting to be  a taxi had failed to take down the admirals flags, so all hell broke out on the ship they were approaching as they assumed it was a surprise visit by said Admiral , so they could see a reception committee being formed on deck as they were approaching, and what a surprise the Captain got when my GF showed his face, luckily the Cptn knew him as well although I would assume it would be the Crew of the Barge in error..
One of the very few stories he told us,about his time in the services when in the War, He was one of those who signed the Official Secrets act and that was that.!!!  I keep meaning to apply for his Naval records as we know very little about what he did ( mainly Land Based) but he seemed to know a lot of High ranking officers then and later after the war.

[Jerry C]

Although civil law does not apparently have anything to say about flags, military law certainly does. I never resigned my Commission and so am still subject to military law. I'm just on the inactive list at ACR. A Royal Navy c/o is entitled to board a civilian vessel flying the Blue Ensign, examine the Warrant and crew members relevant. If the vessel is found not to be entitled he must seize the ensign and any spares and report the vessel, master and crew to the ACR. What happens then is anyone's guess. I'm not a clubby type bloke and yacht clubs flying the Blue Ensign doesn't sit well with me. To my mind it belittles our service and commitment. If I wish to fly it my boat has to be entered in Lloyds Small boat Register annually and at great expense on an ongoing basis. I also have to obtain a Warrant. Not sure if there's a fee there but I'd be surprised if there wasn't.
Jerry.