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HMS Illustrious farewell
« on: August 26, 2016, 05:25:22 PM »

August 23 UK Gov announced that the former HMS Illustrious has been sold for 2 million to Turkish scrap yard, same as her sisters.  Due to depart in the Autumn, not exact date given yet.
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 06:54:16 PM »

Hull wanted to put it on the Humber as an attraction but the powers that be obviously preferred to scrap it just like the rest of our past  Bill..
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 07:04:38 PM »

As I have previously said, I don't think preservation was a practical option really. Apart from the economics, the ship was not really famous as such although she did have a proud service career.

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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2016, 10:56:50 AM »

Rather gutted to hear this, although it was absolutely expected. I will be making the journey to wave her off if dates are given in advance.
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2016, 11:24:46 AM »

Hull wanted to put it on the Humber as an attraction but the powers that be obviously preferred to scrap it just like the rest of our past  Bill..
Politicians of all castes don't want to be reminded of all the lives that have been sacrificed on the altar of political expediency maybe?
NAH , they've no conscience,  it's just MONEYEEE . . .
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2016, 01:05:22 PM »

I have been told she will be getting towed out on the 24th October.
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 09:39:55 PM »

Just hope we dont end up with a war with another country we won't have any war ships to fight for us ,the powers at be would have scrapped them all  will be running to America to borow some war ships
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2016, 10:42:16 PM »

Stu
How definite is that date? as I want to book leave to be there to say good by
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2016, 10:44:18 PM »

ellisgarth don't quite understand the post, Lusty has not been part of the fleet for over two years, and would not be able to be brought back except at great cost.  Some exciting new ships on the way and May the 9th QE comes to her home port.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2016, 11:50:28 PM »

ellisgarth don't quite understand the post, Lusty has not been part of the fleet for over two years, and would not be able to be brought back except at great cost.  Some exciting new ships on the way and May the 9th QE comes to her home port.


Does anyone understand what's going on ? reasonably good war canoes have being 'decommisioned' the latest type 45's are tied up in pompy next to each other , Birkenhead docks are home to RFA's that are going for scrap (after expensive refits) new River class RFA's are being built in Korea . . . rumours abound the crews on the new flat tops will be mostly foreign nationals . . . the advert on TV "born in Carlisle , made in the Navy" has a hollow ring to it . . .  as an Island nation we MUST be able to defend ourselves surely ? ?
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 07:47:24 AM »

Saving money and relying on NATO to defend our shores.
Absolute madness.


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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2016, 03:21:23 PM »

Latest T45 some in Portsmouth having returned from deployment one just setoff for long deployment plus refit for one to me does not equate to tied up alongside, only one is being used for other purposes as she is the worst of the fleet with the generator problems
RFA built in Korea simply as although offered the chance no UK yard tendered with most saying to busy, once built they will come to Uk to be fitted out to UK standard.
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2016, 03:28:51 PM »

Whats the use of shiny ships if we don't have enough
Crews to operate them >>:-(


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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2016, 11:27:42 AM »

Stu
How definite is that date? as I want to book leave to be there to say good by


I believe it is dependant on the tug but that is the date they are aiming for
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2016, 12:24:22 PM »

Keep an eye on the HMS Illustrious Association website:

http://hmsillustriousassociation.com/hmsillustrious_news.html

As they will post any information when they know it. Note that the date could be as early as the 17th. Also look out for the tug (not sure what its name will be) on AIS as they won't want to keep it stooging around for any length of time. Queen's Harbourmaster Portsmouth will have planned shipping movements one day ahead:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/qhm/portsmouth

It appears that high tides on 24th (around which it is most likely the tow will leave) are very early morning and around 6pm. Not sure if they will want to leave in the dark though.

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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2016, 01:19:59 PM »

They are not averse to towing out redundant ships on a low tide also. I think the slack water conditions at low tide last a bit longer than those at high tide.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2016, 01:48:53 PM »

Perhaps, but the Illustrious class are quite deep draught, when in service they had to steer a very careful route in and out of Portsmouth although Illustrious will be in light condition and possibly may be able to take advantage of the dredged channel for the new carriers.

Looking back I think they towed Ark Royal out at about HW+2.5 which would suggest a breakfast time departure for Illustrious on the ebb.

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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2016, 10:24:39 PM »

Getting CO of HMS Bristol to let me know when :)
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2016, 10:32:12 PM »

Share it with us!
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2016, 10:41:38 PM »

For stability during the tow, certain F/W, F/O & A/G tanks will pressed up with sea water as the ship will not have any functioning ballast pumping

So essentially this dictates her needed draft when departing Portsmouth for the last time

I walked upon her flight deck 30 years ago when she was in Sydney for our 75th Naval Centenary.................

Whilst not discussed in the video......one of Lustys pilots used the chopper blade thrust to skate a few neuc protesters away from the bow of BB63 as she berthed just by my office............  Derek

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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2016, 10:45:03 PM »

Share it with us!
Most certainly will do, hope its not to early as an early morning drive will be a pain
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2016, 10:50:35 PM »

I have been aboard her a couple of times too but had a rather closer encounter back in 1994 when we had a mishap in our boat and drifted into her path as she was returning to Portsmouth from Bosnia. The bow wave pushed us away and we went all the way down her port side until the phalanx sponson brought down our mast. It was rather traumatic.  :o

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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2016, 07:29:34 AM »

Interesting thread here but having just joined Model Mayhem, I am slightly concerned about the moderator comments on "unbuiltnautilus" response. He is quite correct and added a sensible remark. Why then would this be seen as contentious, have I joined and old boys club of retired Navy types who still think they know whats going on?
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2016, 11:49:15 AM »

No, don't worry about me, having been on this illustrious ( :-)) ) site since 2010, working with my fellow modellers in the Portsmouth Display Team, plus selling model products to the great unwashed for over 25 years, I have developed the hide of a Great White Whale...also pretty windswept from many fruitless days at the Round Tower waiting for the arrival or departure of some mythical vessel, promised by QHM, but often undelivered. So look for me with the thick white whale skin and windswept appearance, in the next few weeks, no doubt at low water (!), waiting for the last of those great, but ugly as a whales posterior, Invincible Class ships to depart.

Anyway, you will know when you have felt the wrath of the moderators, now get on with that nice 71' MTB I flogged you last night...............troublemaker %)
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Re: HMS Illustrious farewell
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2016, 01:56:29 PM »

Yes... I suppose I am, still "it's good to talk"  :-))
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