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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2016, 08:24:43 pm »

I love the look of your PT and the Dreadnought hulls! It always seems a shame to cover up such lovely timber colours with paint.

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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2016, 05:56:00 pm »



wheelhouse section of the plug completed and joined to the aft section, after more filling and sanding details that can be part of the mold will be added.. then the fiberglass mold can be laid up (this plug almost weighs more than the hull!!)
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2016, 01:22:55 pm »

back to work after some vacation time, while doing some reading (RN ASR book) discovered that the D-Day markings for boats was a 5 point white star in a blue circle field.. I know somewhere I have seen this on a whaleback but can't seem to find the photo.. looking for a link or help as this would fit in the time frame I'm working on..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2016, 09:44:20 pm »

started getting the parts made that will be included in the mold plug..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2016, 02:40:58 pm »

started working on a master for the turrets, plans, drawings and photos were clashing.. the museum at Flixton came to the rescue and provided measurement and detailed photos (with measuring items)I produced a rough set of 1/16th scale drawings that should work.. now to turn a new corrected form..



great thanks to the museum folks!!!!
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2016, 04:27:14 pm »

BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT Mk.I

hi there there were two versions of the gun turrets - one came from the above which was for the single gun and then when they modified it for the twin gun I believe the canopy came from either a Lancaster design or some heavy bomber.  Christian will be the best one cos he is the one who advised me.
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2016, 05:43:13 pm »

I was wondering how you were going to create the Canopies, as they seemed the most tricky out of all the components. I will watch with interest these latest developments :-))


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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2016, 06:05:54 pm »

current "plan" 1/16th square brass soldered inner-frame, vacuum formed clear sections, outer frames and center sections photo-etched brass,(hoping with the first 2 layers together a pattern can be made for the outer frames ),.. yes this will be fiddley.. but its a fun break from 1/96th work!!!
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2016, 06:42:37 pm »

turret frame construction, decided to use 1/16th square aluminum stock (had to cut 1/16th plate to make it) filed half lap joints and JB weld (a filled epoxy) clear turret domes were vacuumed formed before grooving the plugs for the frame forming, now to start on the second one..


kind on crazy tedious work? yes but fun, as it's been said "you're way on the edge of the map" my reply "there be dragons there"
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2016, 08:28:43 am »

Very impressive build.


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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2016, 09:45:35 am »

You could simplify things a bit as I can recall reading some years back that the glazing was often removed from the turrets as they had a tendency to steam up in use.

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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2016, 06:02:28 pm »

Thats a big wow from me, nice work
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2016, 01:13:52 pm »

thanks for the comments, the build method for the frames seems to worked as I was able to get a second bird cage together that matches the first one.. learned a few things on number one , so the second's build went a little faster and smoother.. now to get back on the main cabin plug work ..

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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2016, 09:51:39 pm »

box from shapeways arrived today with the guns,



will have to work on the shield for the 20mm and adjust the mounts for the turret guns,, fabbing up the deck stanchions will also be needed..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2016, 06:05:41 pm »

one working inner turret frame completed, have to make a second now that I know I can..

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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2016, 05:28:57 pm »

Oh WOW!!!!
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2016, 05:26:36 pm »

my first attempt at etching my own parts..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #42 on: December 28, 2016, 09:44:49 pm »

turned some balsa stock for making the carley float, turned the start of a basswood plug for the DF loop.. the cabin plug was prepped, glassed up, hopefully there will be a good mold under that mess (the base layers were much neater)


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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2017, 03:29:27 pm »

spent  some time working with balsa..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2017, 06:51:04 pm »


a few minutes with the lathe
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2017, 02:18:01 pm »

I echo Colin's WOW! Because those turrets are gorgeous just on their own. I know of at least one modeller who gave up on making one of these because of the turret glazing so kudos to you for 'finkin' it all out. I imagine that being a larger scale, they are easier to develop.

I have only just seen this topic so will take much more note of your progress on this beauty.
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2017, 02:00:25 pm »

thanks everyone, the 1/16th scale makes some things easier, but is unforgiving on other details..the Carley float floor has been built, float and rings have been ribbon wrapped to simulate canvas..
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2017, 02:14:37 pm »

sacrificed some clickster pencils to the cause as stock for navigation lights "glass" turning while wearing the opti-visor, took a bit to find the correct speed and use of lube/coolant (soapy water) may try to refine this a bit but have to find some more stock!!
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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2017, 06:52:38 pm »

machine some brass I-beam and solder some tube to it to make stock for the hand rail mounts, need around 28 of them.. shot some paint on the float parts so I can start rigging it up..

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Re: RAF HSL whaleback in 1/16th
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2017, 01:39:37 pm »

had to make some 20mm parts after messing up detailing the 3D printed parts.. unimat with the opti-visor work.. may be I need to work with some of my 1/96th scale stuff before the 1/16th drives me further crazy.. I thought it would be the other way around..

after a little paint and blacken-it
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