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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2016, 08:36:17 PM »

Ha I remember you jamming it in your car all those years ago. and then under your bench a couple of years ago....so now finally......I must say looking good Stav, will you have it a coalville.. :-))
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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2016, 11:33:50 PM »

Right then lets get the roof of the bridge planked,right then we really need to sort out the camber of the roof  so the center was Marked out and a piece of scrap wood was used around 8mm x8mm and a couple of 4x4's were used on the edge of the roof,this allowed a decent roof camber





A piece of ply was then glued to these so I could plank it over and a center line was marked so I could start form the middle and work outwards





Around 40 were needed for the roof alone





I was initially going to use Pva Waterproof wood glue but changed my mind as I couldnt wait to get it done so Opted for Gorrilla Glue the Gell one...must admit this is spot on so so easy to use and I didnt even stick my fingers together and is waterproof as well





This is the roof around 3/4 done





Roof Done..But you will see that the planks are higldy pigldy so to speak and need to be rubbed down to the wodth and length of the plywood roof,How do we do that may you well ask...well very simply really...I made a rubbing down block by simply glueing a peice of 80 grit sandpaper with spray glue to a block of wood..I also made one of 180 grit and 400





Here you will see that i have started the vertical planks that go around the bridge are







This was done in a similar way to the roof But a dremel was used to get a rough shape and then a simply filed to finish





As there are windows around the bridge a window frame is needed I will show you how to do this on the next instalment








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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2016, 08:05:43 AM »

Looking good so far mate but can I offer one critique? The roof should be done last so its edges overlap the sides. Your side planking appears to overlap the edge of the roof. In real life this would allow the ends of the planks open to wicking up water, which would then swell the woodwork. Overlapping the roof allows for an edge band to cover the ends of the roof planks.

But overall its going to be a monster of a ship when finished. :-))

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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2016, 09:36:50 AM »

I hear what you are saying BUT  there is a capping going around it to protect the end grain as per the real one....Thanks for your kind comments.keep them coming




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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2016, 09:19:14 PM »

Right then Window frames....the Stav way...whether this is the correct way lord only knows but is has worked  for me and thats all that counts .


Firstly i glued the inner part of the window frame to cover up the edge of the fiberglass....yes it is far to oversize but it is easily sanded with a block.





This is showing the frame sanded down





Then a simple frame of much narrower planks were glued to the outside to cover everything up...simple but in my mind effective





Now me being the impatient fellow decided I would try out the woodstain that I purchased in B&Q just so I could see what it was like







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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2016, 11:40:49 AM »

I'm not sure how dark you want it, but it can be thinned out using white spirit to lighten it up should you find it too dark. For my trawler build I bought light oak for the decks because the pine I felt was too light, the oak was still too dark after thinning! There never seems to be the colour you want available!

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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2016, 01:26:13 PM »

It's always better to try the woodstain out on a piece of scrap, of the same material, before committing to the model. OK, it may mean waiting around for the stuff to dry but, there is usually something else to be getting on with in the meantime. :-)

Also, it can depend on applying a number of coats to get the desired effect.

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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2016, 07:09:47 PM »

She is starting to look excellent Dave. I look forward to trying out wood steaming in the future.
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2016, 08:21:11 PM »

I like it Stav it's really starting to come together, I do have a stock of (real) glass slides if you want to glaze the Windows
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2016, 09:22:33 PM »

Hi Phil...was going to use some perspex inside to do the glazing my woodworking skills aint up to making a rebate to hold the glass in alas...Thanks all the same



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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2017, 07:07:11 PM »

Are the 380 size motor going to be big enough  lol
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2017, 08:23:44 PM »

With a 35 mm prop  {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2017, 05:50:01 PM »

Wey hey managed to get a full day in the shed today so I actually managed to finish the cladding of hte bridge and make all the window frames.....phew thank goodness that's over and done with.
It was then given 3 coats of light oak stain...more like dark oak !!! But to be honest with you I wanted it dark as all the Tid's were this way








I now had to construct the Port and Starboard Navigation light Boards  which I will now endevour to build some lamps for it...unless of course I can get hold of some 1/12th scale old fashioned ones





This is being held up to see what it looked like as it will need painting before it gets glued on to the bridge





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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2017, 06:04:52 PM »

That Bridge looks good..

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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2017, 06:52:59 PM »

I've seen ye olde style navigation lamps on Ebay so worth looking there and perhaps Dolls House sites?
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2017, 05:14:06 AM »

The actual size for 1/12 is around 20mm x 20mm


but found these which aint too far off but maybe still on the small side in terms of width..
http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/krick_lamps.html

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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2017, 08:27:09 AM »

If the Tids had oil running lights don't forget to source  some red and green oil
for port and starboard  %)


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2017, 09:22:16 AM »

Tizdaz sorry but they are the wrong type...ive looked everywhere, so its builld them from scratch.


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2017, 09:45:06 AM »

Dave

I have not seen Navigation boards with a partition restricting the light shining forward. Could you enlighten me?
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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2017, 09:48:18 AM »

Honestly can not answer that one but it was a feature on the tid's for some reason clearly shows it on all the plans. It seeme that  the light blocker if thats what you call it is half width of the rear of the box so to speak...maybee someone like Dodes or Shipmate 60 could enlighten us

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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2017, 04:13:37 PM »

Dave

I have not seen Navigation boards with a partition restricting the light shining forward. Could you enlighten me?
As they say on Mayhem the only stupid question is the one you do not ask.


I maybe wrong, but i'm sure it has something to do weather the tug was towing if length of tow was over 2-300m as to weather it would have full or partial arc of light beam?

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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2017, 05:05:41 PM »

I'll need to go look it up guys, but the boards are there to restrict the angles at which the lights can be seen by other vessels, in order to avoid confusion, which could lead to collisions - it's definitely in the Regs somewhere - I'll come back on this, unless someone else can enlighten us all (pun intended)

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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2017, 05:34:21 PM »

Normal angles are theseImage result for arcs of ships running lights
Was there a different restriction for wartime as the boards depicted for the TID would be a more acute ange of visibility.


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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2017, 06:15:35 PM »

As a few hours have been wasted looking for Nav light I decided to make some out of Plastic card and some scrap bits I had in the spares box


All marked up ready to cut







All the bits ready to be glued together









One nearly finished the other is being constructed





Trial fit





Front of lamp with a slot cut in it for the light





Tops pf the lamp were made with components of some brass lamps which I had spare





trial fit in its new home





Coaling scuttles made ready to be fitted





These were scribed to simulate the ridges on them




fresh water tank all marked up on Plastic card ready to be cut and assembled





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Re: Tid Tug 164 Build Models By Design...The BIG UN
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2017, 06:24:14 PM »

Pic of steps from the deck to the superstructure





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