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Queen Mary
« on: January 02, 2017, 08:24:19 pm »

I am thinking of building this illustrious ship and wondered if anyone else has built her. There was some interest years ago in this Forum but the pictures have been wiped out.

I am collating pictures, as is my usual way, in an effort to scratch build her to about 5 foot +.  The ship is 1020 foot long, so what is the nearest scale ratio I should use please.

Does anyone have any plans that may assist me please.  I have already collected some photocopies of pictures of plans which will prove a challenge to work from as they are very blurred, but at least they have lengths and widths that are measurable. 

Here's a picture of the ship in America.  I have viewed several YouTube films of tours around her, so the photographs are mounting up.

Over to you.   :-))

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2017, 08:54:47 pm »

Some more newsreel movies for you here Ken.

http://www.britishpathe.com/search/query/queen+mary+ship
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2017, 08:58:14 pm »

1:200 scale would give a model 61.2 inches long. Good luck with your build I'll follow it with great interest
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2017, 08:59:29 pm »


I have the pictures I took when I visited her if of any use..


Pm me your email if you want them.   :-))


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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2017, 09:09:06 pm »

Thanks for the Pathe news site, Nemo.  I've book marked it and will go through it.

Thank you for the scale calculation, Dougal . It sounds just right.

Thanks for the pictures offer Larry, I have collated quite a few but if I need better details , perhaps I may call upon you.

I think I enjoy the start of the builds better than the finishing off.     {-)

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2017, 09:56:38 pm »

Hi Ken
For scale her length is 311m you want 5ft or 1.52m =1:204 drop down to 1:200 she will work out 1.55 m long or 5.08 foot.
There are two people on her that have models of her . Mick French and Jason Lester .  I will let them know of this post. I think I know were there may be plans


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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2017, 10:14:51 pm »

Brown Son and Ferguson do two sets of plans from the Underhill Range:

http://www.skipper.co.uk/catalogue/drawings-and-plans/working-plans-for-scaled-ship-models-power-craft-list/page/4

There is a large model in the possession of the Southampton Maritime Museum, 1/48 scale I think. http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/a-vanished-era/7072

This article was written when it was on display in the old premises but I think it is still on show in the new museum.

You will be taking on 22 lifeboats and 2000 portholes - good luck with that!

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2017, 10:17:45 pm »

Great information John.  Many thanks so far. Yes, I would be interested in further details and for any further help from you.  I have a poor quality hull profile and could do with a better version.

It does look like   1:200  is the way to go.  I can twin her up with  Titanic  on the shelf.     :}

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2017, 10:20:47 pm »

Thank you Colin.  Very interesting, I'm glad you've come on board as I was going to write to you, knowing your affinity to this craft.   ok2

I'm away to dreamland now so have plenty to think about.

cheers

ken


ps

Hi Colin,

Your post came just in.  I LOVE doing windows.    :D

Going by the prices, I shall need a lot of plans.  ooh er


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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2017, 11:24:37 pm »

Well Ken....that is certainly an interesting listing and plan set that Colin has provided........

......when added 2 6's =12 +2=14...carry the 1...4+2 =6.......reminded me of that song ''When I am 64" ......[well 64 & a bit]...or just about your age & a bit  %) ;D

http://www.skipper.co.uk/catalogue/drawings-and-plans/working-plans-for-scaled-ship-models-power-craft-list/page/4
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2017, 06:58:14 am »

If you can, try and get hold of the 'Anatomy of the Ship' book of her. There's lots of plans and photos in there.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cunard-Liner-Queen-Mary-Anatomy/dp/0851775292


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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2017, 10:43:10 am »

Which ever way I go, it's sounding an expensive route by the look of it.   :o 

Here's me fast approaching 75  (4 weeks)  with a pension less than my earnings for my first job all those years ago.  As you all know by now, I don't like expensive purchases and try to not spend money unless I have to.  This is why I have taken to scratch building  (apart from the desire to keep occupied !)  it tends to keep the  'ol'  brain active at a low cost.

The plan is to determine the 'Frames dimensions' and various lengths and sizes from a few good pictures, and away we go onto the production line.


Thank you for all your support

Cheers

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2017, 10:54:28 am »

The hull should be easy enough Ken, just get 2,000 holes and stick them together - just the cost of the glue then.... ;)

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2017, 10:57:11 am »

Morning Colin.  It's not the holes that bother me but the surrounding material.

                                                {-)    {-)    {-)

I have found the frames drawings................... yippeeeeeee

cheers

ken

     
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2017, 05:38:43 pm »

The best plans available are the Harold Underhill plans from the Model Dockyard  http://www.model-dockyard.com/acatalog/Harold_Underhill_Powered_Ship_Plans.html
These are to a scale of 1/192nd scale.  There is a smaller scale version also.  The down side is the  1:192 version is 50 quid a set.
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2017, 05:47:06 pm »

Please,please can a Mod remove the
Number 1 from the title of this topic.
She was Queen Mary plain and simple.
I hate when there are sequels or follow
ons that the original gets the label 1.
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I thought it looked unusual as well so I've removed it now

Thanks for the  'heads up' Ned

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2017, 05:49:46 pm »

TailUK - those are the plans I have already mentioned above!

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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2017, 05:59:50 pm »

TailUK - those are the plans I have already mentioned above!

Colin

      Sounds like it and a bit cheaper than the Model Dockyard too!
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2017, 06:07:02 pm »

a few pics I took of QM 1  %)



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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2017, 06:11:06 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2017, 06:13:35 pm »

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2017, 06:21:58 pm »

That brings back a few memories Larry. In my photo collection I have a pic of me standing in front of the bow in 2001 and another in exactly the same position at Southampton in 1967! I was a bit shorter then...

They don't make 'em like that anymore.

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2017, 07:26:00 pm »

Just going to say Colin,they do compare nicely to your photos of her.
I do have a set of full plans for her Kenny, but I am afraid they are so very fragile,I hesitate to take them out of their protective tube.
My model of her,as you probably know is 9 feet 3 inches long in old money,and is completely radio controlled,but has not been on the water for about 15 years.Hopefully at the Warwick Show,next year,If I am invited,with the very welcome help of John Walravens,she will hopefully be going on the water under her own power.
We actually did get my other large model of the QE2,working on the water this year,woops thats last year now!
As I didnt build the models myself,Im afraid I cant be of much help,but am certainly looking forward to yours.
PS, Colins suggestion of sticking a lot of holes together,maybe you could use Polo mints,if they are the correct scale,then at some stage,if you get fed up with making her you could say this model sucks,break off a piece and just do that lol
Good Luck
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Re: Queen Mary
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2017, 07:46:26 pm »

Yowzah. That's an awful lot of rivet and plate detail in those photos, its going to take Ken a lifetime to get all that done.
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