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T33cno

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Re: MMM Portgarth build......Side bump strip.
« Reply #475 on: May 07, 2017, 09:02:49 PM »

As anyone come up with a better solution for the rubbing strakes than the huge square section provided by MMM ?????????
I'm sure I've seen a better solution somewhere  {:-{


EDIT
One possibility


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sundely-Brand-New-High-Quality-Small-Rubber-Strip-D-Profile-x-10-Meter-/282112221553
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #476 on: May 08, 2017, 09:31:59 AM »

Hi Andy try looking on Seals Direct site they do some great rubber on there.


regards John
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T33cno

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #477 on: May 08, 2017, 09:34:31 AM »

Thanks John
I don't understand why they make the strake in the GRP only half the width of the rubber they supply  {:-{

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #479 on: May 11, 2017, 06:19:20 PM »

Had a break as been very achey and tired after work.
Been off today and as it was warm I took the opportunity to work outside with the smelly stuff.
I started by levelling the bulwarks and filled in the incorrect main deck washports and repositioned the hole watsit for the tiemeups to where it should be further forwards.


Back indoors after a good sanding and opened up the revised washports. The centre one may need extending forwards a bit yet but I'll wait for more photos
Also started attaching gunwale?



Comparison
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #480 on: May 11, 2017, 09:57:24 PM »

One thing I have noticed is that rust looks better on navy blue, so if you are weathering, it will be an interesting look to create.
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #481 on: May 12, 2017, 09:03:57 AM »

One thing I have noticed is that rust looks better on navy blue, so if you are weathering, it will be an interesting look to create.
Interesting Ian but I doubt I'll go down that route having made so much effort to produce a quality build. I think getting weathering right is another skill that I can swerve  {-)
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #482 on: May 12, 2017, 06:12:18 PM »

I came across a bag of bollards today @3.95 for 6  :-))  by Robbe.
The one on the right is as they come, the one in the background is the piddly out of scale MMM offering and the one in position is cut down to almost match the actual item





A little bit more off the sides and some sanding it will be bob on
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #483 on: May 12, 2017, 07:14:22 PM »

  Hi Andy.
  Are  you going to Balne Moor on Sunday?.


   John
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #484 on: May 12, 2017, 07:15:48 PM »

Not sure John but possible. Just to socialise if I do  :-))  no boat
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #485 on: May 12, 2017, 07:24:34 PM »

  Bring the Afon there will be a steering course.
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #486 on: May 12, 2017, 09:51:22 PM »

Some of the MMM fittings are very good with a lot of fettling.
These will look the part when satin lacquered and roped.
However the deck crane kit is another load of crap which is a shame, so I'm looking for an alternative ?
What's the best way to fix these in place?
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #487 on: May 13, 2017, 05:59:23 PM »

Following on from my front bollards which now I have pictures prove to be ideal. I now have a rear bollard comparison  <*<  absolute crap!
Is this for real  {-)



The real deal



Fortunately I have seen something that will do and will go back and grab them asap
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #488 on: May 13, 2017, 08:08:38 PM »

Given that I'm generally pleased with my effort here I'm still left wondering is that really enough rope?
Personally I think it needs to be three times longer than supplied. Why would you have a coiled drum with nearly no rope on it? Is that just tight or what  :((
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #489 on: May 13, 2017, 08:12:40 PM »

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #490 on: May 13, 2017, 08:58:09 PM »

Looking back at my MMM invoice it appears I paid nearly 170 for fittings which in hindsight was a big mistake.In future I would cherry pick what is actually worth it or appropriate for the model  :((
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #491 on: May 13, 2017, 09:55:38 PM »

Today at Doncaster the component shop exchanged the two motors I bought prior to actually knowing what I was doing  {-)
I had bought 15 and a 30:1 ratio motors at 10 each and they swapped for a 500:1 which is also ideal for a winch and will do 30rpm  :-))  So I have a contingency for future
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #492 on: May 13, 2017, 10:42:09 PM »

"Why would you have a coiled drum with nearly no rope on it? Is that just tight or what" :((

Ocean going tug hauling winches as designed only with sufficient drum size and hauling rope so the tug can stand off the larger vessel

When at sea, the vessel to be towed will throw a light heaving line to the tug, the tug then winds this heaving line over the winch jipsy drum until the large long poly tow rope is on board the tug.......this then is linked to the vessel winch poly rope. The tug can then feed off her own poly hauling rope until she is clear of the larger vessel under tow

In some cases, the main poly tow rope is transferred to the tugs hook, thus taking any mechanical load off the hydraulic winch system [although this is more common for additional tugs used as back stays]

The actual tow rope being used is 80% of the vessel being towed...

When the large vessel is alongside, the large long poly ropes then become the wharf mooring ropes and immediately placed under auto tension

This certainly was the case with 100,000 tonne ore carriers berthing and departing Kembla

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #493 on: May 13, 2017, 10:44:56 PM »

Interesting  :-))  but I refer you to the photo of the actual vessel  %)
Thank you Derek


EDIT I have just bought 10 metres of BRAIDED as it should be 3mm rope 5.99  :-))
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #494 on: May 13, 2017, 11:03:48 PM »

Yes I see the smaller circumference poly rope on the winch, this could be just a heaving/handling 'line' [rope], as ocean going tugs could also be used for riverine work where differing roping methods were employed

I have no real experience in tug towing operations, however was engaged in maintaining hydraulic systems on BHP Fleet Operations vessels in Kembla.......[this naturally included hydraulic anchor and mooring winch functions] hence my understanding of roping procedures for these vessels 

I am sure another member with far more knowledge with tug towing could offer additional comment here

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #495 on: May 14, 2017, 07:43:13 AM »

Me neither but pictures speak louder than words  :-)
The smaller heaving rope is on top of a full drum of tow line. My MMM offering don't even have one and a half layers  {-)
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #496 on: May 14, 2017, 07:54:16 AM »

If he wanted to get away with a short length of string in the kit he should have made the drum core twice the diameter so it at least appeared loaded  {:-{
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #498 on: May 14, 2017, 03:24:46 PM »

So the front bollards are being mounted on 2 10mm square strips of spruce and the pins go right through into positioning indentations in the deck to help final assembly. They should look great in royal blue.






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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #499 on: May 14, 2017, 03:55:23 PM »

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