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T33cno

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #700 on: October 02, 2017, 09:27:17 pm »

My little gem tonight that I thought of at work  O0
I wanted a secure fixing for the funnels but also wanted them wireable, my solution is a 6mmx25mm long brass bolt that I drilled down the middle to facilitate wiring and easy removal. This has been a good idea  :-))






My partially constructed RIB frame

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #701 on: October 02, 2017, 09:36:56 pm »

Loose assembly for effect
Washers on frame legs are temporary


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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #702 on: October 03, 2017, 09:03:21 pm »

I am enjoying the metalwork Andy. The RIB frame is especially intricate.

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T33cno

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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #703 on: October 03, 2017, 09:51:36 pm »

Thanks Ian
I’m nearly there, just one more rail to fit and make a ladder.
Frame will have to be bonded to the legs as I cant risk soldering



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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #704 on: October 03, 2017, 10:49:24 pm »

The handrails around the deck house are slowing my progress as I’m loath to use the MMM ones.
I can’t top coat until the rails are fitted  :((
Best product I can find that I believe to be suitable is these
https://www.alwayshobbies.com/model-boats/model-boat-fittings/brass-grab-rail-stanchions-5mm?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Transactional
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #705 on: October 04, 2017, 10:33:44 pm »













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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #706 on: October 06, 2017, 06:14:54 am »

Just caught up with this after spending some time away, some lovely looking work there Andy very neat and tidy this is another fantastic build from you
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #707 on: October 06, 2017, 05:29:30 pm »

Hi Paul its good to see you back. I hope you're going to build something soon  :-))


I've been very busy today but not much boat building. I've got the blue done, just the Arum white to finish off.
For the stub sleeves I've hand painted with Tamiya blue, quite a close match. Notice the RIB frame is well off centre true to the actual vessel unlike MMM plans



These are like Hen's teeth or rocking horse doodoo



The reason I've been busy is that in order for me to gain more space I've had to upgrade wife's half  {-)



Downturn at work means I have all next week free to build  8)
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #708 on: October 06, 2017, 05:43:26 pm »

Earning brownie points........good move....... :-))


Build is coming along nicely, class piece of brass work.
That's the bit I am dreading, that and all the stanchions!!!!!!


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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #709 on: October 06, 2017, 05:53:29 pm »

Earning brownie points........good move....... :-))


Build is coming along nicely, class piece of brass work.
That's the bit I am dreading, that and all the stanchions!!!!!!


Stewart


I never imagined in a million years that I'd have made that. It was one of a few jobs that I figured would be a hurdle but I gave it a go and I'm best pleased how it turned out. building on that experience I will be making the mast ladder too as the white metal ones are absolutely crap  :(( 
BIG THANKS to Kevgarth for the photographs without them I'd be building rubbish  {-) 


THEY ARE ON PAGE 2 AND 3 here below. Much better than the very very poor pixelated images that MMM provide laminated. Why bother laminating LOW resolution images?

https://techno.smugmug.com/Portgarth/i-xvs5hwC

The hot iron gives terrific temperature control up to 480C and I managed to solder next to other solders by being quick and using different sized resin multicores. Its just as well to have too much solder and file off to a satisfactory shape than strive to be too neat.


I have the bits to do the handrails around the deckhouse now so I hope to complete this very soon and glue all the hatches/doors in place.


Re stanchions
I plan to borrow a technique of using a spare piece of ply to copy the fixing points of the deck so I can build and paint them off ship and simply slot in place later
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #710 on: October 06, 2017, 07:04:46 pm »

These are the one hole stanchions I’m using



This is the almost finished heavily modified crane
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #711 on: October 06, 2017, 07:50:05 pm »

Thanks Andy,
Unfortunately for me I won't be starting any new builds anytime soon  <:( I've been working away in Tel-aviv commisioning the bearings on a coal fired power station on the mill side where they grind the coal to make it burn hotter, Anyway I've got to go back for another 3-4 weeks of work next week then I've got 3-4 weeks off before starting a contract on some ugly wind turbines off the coast of Newport Wales.

I have been thinking of buying a new kit so to have one ready when I get more time but I really don't know what to choose, I really like my Navy ships and I would like something along those lines but I'm not keen of starting something from scratch as my building skills are not upto that, but I would really like to build the New HMS Queen Elizibeth aircraft carrier  {:-{ either that or another Tug I do like tugs
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #712 on: October 06, 2017, 08:46:41 pm »

Personally I think the more limited the skill base the bigger the scale required. I'd look at 1:24 1:16 1:12 options.
As soon as I experienced 1:32 I stopped building my Rotterdam 1:75 in favour of it.
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Re: MMM Portgarth build......craft room light tip
« Reply #713 on: October 06, 2017, 09:10:07 pm »

This is only £20 at IKEA. I already had LED lamps in stock. It's a no brainer for daylight light!






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These are the lamps I bought 6 months ago, great for 10 units @ £15.99
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Pack-5W-GU10-LED-Cool-white-Replacement-for-Halogen-Bulb-Cool-White-5000K-/291757254117?hash=item43ee1665e5
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #714 on: October 06, 2017, 09:47:56 pm »

Personally I think the more limited the skill base the bigger the scale required. I'd look at 1:24 1:16 1:12 options.
As soon as I experienced 1:32 I stopped building my Rotterdam 1:75 in favour of it.

Yes quite agree as you know I have the 1:75 Rotterdam which I like but I have to say some of it is damn fiddly, Something 1:24 or 1:16 would be ideal but I do struggle to find anything in those sizes
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Re: MMM Portgarth build......Funnel lighting
« Reply #715 on: October 07, 2017, 01:22:18 pm »

My plan described earlier has worked :-))
First light enabled and it was easy to find the 4.5mm central hole first go with a 2mm bit.
I created a slot for the light itself.
Just a position lighting board to make and fit.












EDIT
I'm also making a capstan as the MMM fitting is so small and out of scale that I've actually lost it anyway  {-)
I'm sure most of these supplied fittings are nearer 1:48 scale, especially the stairs up to the wheelhouse! far too narrow.
If I was to build another there are many things I would have done differently in hide sight.
Any of you that haven't finished the decks yet I STRONGLY advise that you move the whole deckhouse forwards 10mm so the stairs don't land right at the edge of the for deck. This is WRONG but to MMM supplied plan

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Re: MMM Portgarth build.......more storage
« Reply #716 on: October 07, 2017, 06:40:03 pm »

Among many tasks today was fitting five more storage tubes. I leave them longer above deck now as they are good for standing sheets behind



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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #717 on: October 07, 2017, 08:55:52 pm »

Going to sea tomorrow.
Assembled for effect end of day shots.
New capstan base in place, drum ordered.






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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #718 on: October 07, 2017, 09:15:16 pm »

Last post today  {-)
My organised chaos  :-))
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #719 on: October 08, 2017, 11:02:37 am »



Re stanchions
I plan to borrow a technique of using a spare piece of ply to copy the fixing points of the deck so I can build and paint them off ship and simply slot in place later


Excellent idea for a technique! I will reborrow it, too  8)  I've had nightmares about the soldering of all that brass wire.


Your build is a gold mine for hints and advice. I truly appreciate it.


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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #720 on: October 08, 2017, 11:07:48 am »

You call THAT chaos !?!
I must say, I like the detail on the desk  %)  glass of grape juice, surely?
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #721 on: October 08, 2017, 11:14:18 am »

Thanks Hande
A nice Lidl Chianti  :-)
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #722 on: October 08, 2017, 03:03:49 pm »

What is the hull up on the shelf ? Looks nice
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Re: MMM Portgarth build
« Reply #723 on: October 08, 2017, 03:11:49 pm »

It's the hull originally made by Chipchase (Brian) and now sold by Tynemodelboats Svitzer Maltby


See this link :-))
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36015.50.html


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Re: MMM Portgarth build.....deckhouse grab rail rethink
« Reply #724 on: October 08, 2017, 07:28:18 pm »

After being delayed here due to waiting for those 1 hole stanchions I have in the end decided that 1mm rod is too small to be realistic.
So having looked at Chipchase's work I concluded I'd try soldering my own supports to 1.6mm rod.
See I had numerous attempts at spacing  {-)  but decided on 30mm in the end.
So I drill 1.6mm holes for the start and finish and 1mm hole below the rail for smaller rod. Snipped off flush before soldering.
I'm using iron on 480 degrees for fast melting and fast flow solder from component shop.
I think the finished product will look much better.
Using 2mm brass to space off.






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