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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #250 on: May 16, 2019, 09:03:09 PM »

Looks really nice Nick.  Finishing planking is a major milestone on ships of this size  :-))
Gonna need a lot of stanchions though  {:-{
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #251 on: May 16, 2019, 09:08:04 PM »

Thanks Bob


Iím just calculating the number of the stanchions required, there are two different types to take into consideration as well. Two ball items for the upper superstructures and three ball for the decks. Problem is just as I think Iíve found them all, I find more! :D
When Iím sure Mr Dean will have a rather large order coming his way. :-))
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #252 on: May 17, 2019, 08:48:15 AM »

Nick,


I purchase my stanchions from Cornwall Model boats and found thier prices were pretty good. Excellent service too. I purchased 200 of the RB ones (same as you used on your Dreadnought) - really very good. I was planning on bringing Invincible to Mayhem on Saturday and Iron Duke on Sunday unless domestic stuff intrudes!


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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #253 on: May 17, 2019, 09:23:06 AM »

Good tip Geoff.   I will be planking and stanchioning HMS Agincourt fairly soon, so useful info.  Thanks.

PS:  I will be bringing Agincourt to Mayham on the Saturday, hoping to compare gunfire.  There is a surprise in store regarding this which remains top secret until then.   %%
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #254 on: May 17, 2019, 08:34:44 PM »

Very much looking forward to seeing it.

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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #255 on: May 20, 2019, 01:24:57 PM »

Nick,


Are you planning to be at MBM both days?


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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #256 on: May 20, 2019, 01:26:08 PM »

Hi Geoff


Iíll be there both days with my Invincible and my monitor.
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #257 on: July 23, 2019, 01:59:30 PM »

Nick,


I seem to remember you had built some strange fairleads that were higher than normal and had two horizontal holes in their bases. The design was something of a puzzle until I build four for my Invincible and went to fit them. Now the design is obvious as the fairleads are on raised platforms so the fairlead itself would be high enough to clear the rolled up ant-torpedo nets as otherwise the fairlead won't be able to function! 


The fore and aft fairleads are at deck level which makes sense for other applications.


Puzzle solved!!


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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #258 on: July 23, 2019, 09:46:38 PM »

Hi Geoff


That makes sense, I modified a white metal item from Deanís Marine and made the extension from plastic strut filed suitably to shape.


Just got all my 3 ball stanchions and ready for installation, new wire at the ready! Just finished making my anchor handling gear and chains, makes the fore deck look busier.
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #259 on: July 24, 2019, 01:42:57 PM »

Nick,


For the railings on my model I threaded sections together off the ship using "Beadalone" which is a 7 strand flexible jewellery wire which is 0.32mm in diameter and it threaded easily. I then marked out the stanchion holes using a small jig so they would all be a common distance inboard/outboard.


I did come to grief in a couple of areas - the high fairleads in point as these need to fit between stanchions so if you glue them on first it may be wise to use them as a starting point.


Also the steps down to the quarterdeck need to have stanchions each side so don't equally space out. In fact I think the stanchions are typically (going from memory) 1" apart but not in all cases as they just don't fit right given the shape of the wooded decking.


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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #260 on: October 30, 2019, 08:32:22 PM »

Right, apologies first for the lack of posts on this model, a lot has happened since the last up date which include a fourth forward superstructure rebuild as I was not happy when I painted it so it got scrapped!
I replaced the secondary armament casement turrets with 16mm diameter acrylic tube which turned out to be more accurate than the plastic tube I was using before- didnít help that they were wrong diameter too!
My upper casemate gun houses were also wrong being 5mm to far aft which threw the measurements out of the window too.
Funnels have been detailed with rigging points and steam pipes, and I admit now that before they were not 100% upright either! Thatís all corrected, and the main mast was paint stripped so the aft searchlight platform could be fitted properly.
The capston equipment, anchor chain and bits have been made and attached to the foredeck and finally the stanchions have been added using the 11mm high 3 ball brass items from RB Fittings dressed with Albion Alloys 0.2mm Nickel-Silver rod, I tried using Geoffís method but I couldnít get right so more practice on another model will have to happen so I can finish Invincible.
Pictures to come soon once the work bench is tidy and everything it firmly attached in place. For those wishing to see Invincible in the flesh (so to say) she will be at the Wicksteed stand at the International Model Boat Show at Warwick very soon.
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #261 on: October 30, 2019, 08:45:24 PM »

I look forward to seeing her Nick.

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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #262 on: October 30, 2019, 08:57:05 PM »

An older colleague [and exceptional model steam engine builder] recently suggested to me ....."that sometimes, we can be our worst critic"
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« Reply #263 on: October 30, 2019, 09:11:50 PM »

Only sometimes Derek?!

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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #264 on: October 30, 2019, 09:59:12 PM »

I know this Chap was being polite Colin.......... %)  .......


After finding porosity in some 5" Gauge castings.......many would fill these small voids prior to painting......but no  <*<


This same person enrolled as a retired Mature Age Student in a TAFE [Technical College] in a two Mechanical Engineering Classes


The first was 'The practical Guide to Engineering Materials Pattern Making for Castings' with the second 6 months 'Vacuum degassed Castings'


Yes, he smelted his own iron in a Blazziers Hi Vacuum furnace and cast his  own engine component in an inert gas casting machine

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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #265 on: October 30, 2019, 10:09:32 PM »

Ah, but did he mine the iron ore?  :-)
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #266 on: November 03, 2019, 06:48:18 PM »

Time for the pictures as promised.
Over the next few days the superstructure will be finished off a bit more so at Warwick she will look a little different to now.
Anyway enjoy... :-))
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« Reply #267 on: November 04, 2019, 08:15:07 PM »

We will and are. Thankyou Mr B  :-)
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #268 on: February 07, 2020, 07:03:51 PM »

Hi everyone


An update is due on my build, sorry about the delay and can't believe that it was Nov last year since the last one!
Since the last group of pictures I uploaded I have completed the paint on the newly re-built forward superstructure. Halfords primer grey for the main colour and Sovereign Hobbies Corticene paint for the decks. I just need to add the brass strips to finish off the decks. The searchlights have been glued together and require painting, these are fantastic fittings from John Haynes and are of the correct diameter and size for Invincible. The support beams and structure were built from brass rod, everything had to be contructed and attached in a particular order otherwise due to the tripod mast it would not have fitted. I've changed a few things compared to Geoff, as we often compare each others builds, and some of it is to individual interpretation of the only plans we have of the real vessel (if you have a copy of British Battlecruisers 1905-1920 by John Roberts you will see the fold out copies of the drawings we are using). But its part of the fun and we both know that we creating our own version- the real photos of Invincible in this era are very hard to come by, especially ones that are clear enough to inpsect the detail.
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #269 on: February 08, 2020, 09:31:11 AM »

Looks great!  :-)) :-))
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #270 on: February 11, 2020, 01:38:46 PM »

Looking good, Nick. I've also made some progress and am currently locked in a war of attrition with the rear boat deck and boats! Hope to post some updates soon.


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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #271 on: February 11, 2020, 11:48:55 PM »

Looking great. What did you use to simulate the canvas outboard of the stanchions? it looks great.
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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #272 on: February 12, 2020, 02:20:43 AM »

Hi Akira


Many thanks


The canvas screens are made from 15mm wide masking tape and stuck to the railings using its natural stickiness and PVA glue to hold it place.
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« Reply #273 on: February 13, 2020, 01:14:07 PM »

Nick,


By chance I found the on the web - . I haven't gone through it all but there seems to be a lot of information.


[size=78%]http://www.archive.org/details/shipyardpractice00mcderich[/size]

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Re: HMS Invincible- The First Battlecruiser
« Reply #274 on: February 23, 2020, 05:52:36 PM »

Hi Geoff


Wow, that is quite impressive, it reminds me of the Admiralty Books of Seamanship that they handed out to the recruits from the 1890s to the 1950s. Very helpful to have an online verison of an archive like this.
Many thanks for sharing




I have spent a second Sunday in a row actually building a bit of the Invincible  :o


I have started to construct the Admiral's office (certainly smaller than the one on Dreadnought!) and the forward superstucture ship's boats beams and cradles. I've taken some liberty here as it is hard to interpret the drawings with all the boats in the way, since most of it will be hidden beneanth the actual boats themselves I think a representation is just as good. All the boats are Quaycraft items, one isn't quite correct but I cannot find one and I'm not good enough to scratch-build one either so it will do for the moment.
I have made the port sampson post from various tubes and rods of brass all soldered together and the port navigation bridge support was built from tiny tubes of brass which I now have to make an identical version for the starboard side and the connecting struts between.
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