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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #175 on: August 13, 2020, 09:18:48 AM »

Morning Mike


Thanks for this, and it will be interesting to see what the No 1 does...


And I fully understand that you might not be able to take many more pics of your hull as the reflections might make it impossible.


I look forward to having that problem.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #176 on: August 20, 2020, 05:59:43 PM »

Hi.

6th coat, very little improvement and it is all rubbed down now, just a couple of pictures.

Working on making more deck fittings, I think I'll be able to make them all with the exception of the 4 clamshell vents. I've absolutely no idea how to make them.

Here is a picture showing 1 transom fairlead finished and 1 kit for the second one, will look better when Chromed.

The 2 shiny round things are for the fuel and water fillers, I threw the 2 Ali ones away as they were rubbish.

Have made 2 large cleats for the foredeck, the larger one is true scale size, the other is a tad smaller but I will stick with the larger.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #177 on: August 20, 2020, 06:17:32 PM »

Mike that is beautiful work - what a build  :-))

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2020, 02:25:04 PM »

Good Afternoon.

Have applied what I hoped would be the final coat of varnish, but, there were too many dust specs for it to be acceptable to me, so, it's wait a couple of days and after rubbing it down apply another coat.
I had to look very hard to find the inclusions, they are so small that it would have been perfectly acceptable for many people, but not me,unfortunately.

The photos are not that good as the light is flaring the camera lens, but my wife said, on seeing it this morning, " That thing looks like it's made of glass", she calls it the Thing, no idea why !

I changed from a 1 inch brush to a 1.5 inch which made a far better job the getting a totally smooth finish with absolutely no brush marks.
I think it would be of little use the the 1/10th scale builders, too big but for a final coat the the 1 inch would be very good.
It's the smallest in the Langnickel L283 pack of 3 and very low cost.
My 1.5 inch is a totally different brush and is made for varnishing. Made in America and more expensive @ just under £7.00 from Screwfix, unfortunately they don't do a 1 inch.

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #179 on: August 23, 2020, 02:38:42 PM »

The thing looks great Mike  :}
Iím considering the final coat and whether it might be worth considering a polishing mop and wax

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #180 on: August 23, 2020, 03:44:34 PM »

 
 
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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #181 on: August 23, 2020, 05:48:29 PM »

The thing looks great Mike  :}
Iím considering the final coat and whether it might be worth considering a polishing mop and wax
Hi Andy.

Never tried that, but I have in the past experimented with buffing using the finest compound.
I was a complete flop, all it did was reduce the shine to a very dull finish.
Apparently it's due to the fact that LaTonk. never really hardens enough to cut back.

If you do give it a go I will be very interested in your results, it could help to remove the inevitable small dust p
particles and maybe enhance the shine, that would be fantastic.

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #182 on: August 23, 2020, 05:59:26 PM »

I will start varnishing some scrap wood and see what happens before I try it on my thing  O0


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Back in the 70's at Skool I often used Ronseal hard glaze polyurethane. Four coats on mahogany veneered chip board looked like glass. Rubbed down with steel wool between coats and the final coat was rubbed down with wire wool and beeswax before buffing. The result was astonishing.

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #183 on: August 23, 2020, 06:34:00 PM »

The problem seems to be that the Tung oil always stays flexible, I've found a piece of wood that was varnished about 3 years ago using LeTonk Classic. I can still dent it today wth my finger nail.
It still has a good gloss on it so will try buffing and waxing it tomorrow and let you know how I get on.
Fortunately I have just "The Thing" here to compare it with.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #184 on: August 23, 2020, 06:40:30 PM »

I look forwards to your experiment conclusion  :-)

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #185 on: August 23, 2020, 06:57:49 PM »

I found this on wikipedia
Tung oil finishes that start with polymerized oils or tung oil preparations are best applied in the fat over lean principle: thinned pure oil is applied to deeply penetrate the surface, to fill pores. Straight oil is then applied moderately to adhere to the surface and provide a good base for the thick gloss layers. The polymerized oil is then applied thickly as a single layer, allowed to fully dry, is buffed smooth with very fine sandpaper, then 0000 steel wool. The surface is wiped clean with a moistened rag, then allowed to dry. A final coat is applied fairly thickly (the oil will smooth itself into a glass-like coating) and allowed to dry for two to three days. Rags soaked with tung oil can spontaneously combust (burst into flame).

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #186 on: August 23, 2020, 08:56:06 PM »

A trifle complicated procedure and not relevant in this case as other components are used.
But as we are using a proprietary version of the original Chinese recipe that works perfectly well I don't think anyone would go to the trouble of following those instructions, let alone understanding them.

I/we are carrying out the correct procedure, well, at least I try to, as can be witnessed by looking at my results so far and there is a couple more coats to go, I must be doing something right.

I don't think I need to bother buffing or waxing or any other procedures anymore, as I'm perfectly happy with the results so far. As I have said many times, "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #187 on: August 23, 2020, 08:58:31 PM »

Yes it baffled me a bit too. I hope my bathroom trial works tomorrow  :-))
The only dust in there comes off the toilet rolls and Iíve vacd this evening

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #188 on: August 23, 2020, 09:08:39 PM »

The bathroom idea is a good one, unfortunately ours isn't big enough.
Luckily, a friend of mine has offered me the use of his wet room, will probably take him up on offer.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #189 on: August 23, 2020, 11:12:36 PM »

...so Mike says....."but my wife said, on seeing it this morning, " That thing looks like it's made of glass" ......give her credit Mike :kiss:


"It'....the vessel I mean looks superb and glass like


A good colleague once said...."we ourselves are sometimes our greatest critic"............. [too true]


Reading about the history, it appears that the ancient Chinese were primarily interested in the water resistance Tung Oil provided over any any other quality


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #190 on: August 28, 2020, 04:11:03 PM »

Good Afternoon All.

I have stopped work on the varnishing for a while to concentrate on making the deck furniture.
Have made some so far that were either not good enough or too small for the 1/7th scale size so they will be discarded.

The pictures shows the foredeck items complete and at the correct size but will require plating of course,(eventually !!).

There is one not very good showing the foredeck flagstaff including hooter, not the original air raid siren, both attempts, the large one is scale size and the small on works out at about 1/10th scale, nothing wrong with it other than being too little.

The some of the later boats had a Mahogany plinth attached to it, I assume to lift it clear of the deck or just make it higher.It can be just made out in the rather small photo. The larger one doesn't have it but sits directly on the deck.

The small one would be very good for someone building a 1/10th. Aquarama and wanted to upgrade it, as would the other bits that are of no use to me. Let me know if you are interested in them, it would be a shame to throw them away.

All of the parts are pure guesswork, (as is the majority of the build), just taken from photo's, as there is no written information about them that  I can find

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #191 on: September 06, 2020, 02:21:26 PM »

A little more work done on the deck fittings which seem ok.


Pictures showing them temporarily in place along with the windscreen, quite pleased with the results given that the sizing is pure guesswork due to the lack of
information available.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #192 on: September 06, 2020, 02:23:50 PM »

Really terrific Mike  :-)

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #193 on: September 07, 2020, 05:58:37 PM »

Looks more than 'OK' to me Mike, exceptional fabrication..!


Also just noticed the dovetail cutouts on the frames in the last two images, I'm guessing to help retain the slipway assembly..?


Hope all's well.
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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #194 on: September 07, 2020, 06:59:18 PM »

I hope you're going to keep this one Mike, it's a beaut!

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #195 on: September 07, 2020, 09:57:09 PM »

Looks more than 'OK' to me Mike, exceptional fabrication..!


Also just noticed the dovetail cutouts on the frames in the last two images, I'm guessing to help retain the slipway assembly..?


Hope all's well.
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Thanks David.


That is where the spine fits and is removable to allow some access to the 2 rudder tiller arms.
Also, the bathing slide lays on it and is screwed in a couple of places.


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2020, 01:27:37 PM »

Applied what I hoped would be the final coat of varnish.

Alas, it wasn't to be, the finish is probably the best that I have ever seen for an oil based on finish, far better than my earlier build.

Having examined it in close detail this morning I found that dust particles had settled overnight and completely ruined it. Many people would probably have let it go
as you have to look hard to see them, but I just can't accept it and so it has to be rubbed down and done again.I, reluctantly, will have to avail myself of a friends offer to let me use his wet room, that's the only way that I can think of to be in a dust free environment.
I didn't want to trouble him but he says it will be, "no problem".

Here are some pictures of the boat before it's is put aside for a while to harden off. Again, difficult to avoid reflections.
Meantime, I will carry on with my other build.

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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2020, 01:33:33 PM »

3 more pics.







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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #198 on: September 08, 2020, 02:51:16 PM »

Well Mike, I studied all of your pictures and couldn't spot a single grain of dust.  Have you cleaned your glasses recently?   ;)

But that is a really amazing job for a brushed finish.  Congratulations! (Yes, I know you want it better, but it is already way better than most of us could dream of.)


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Re: Biggish Aquarama Special build
« Reply #199 on: September 08, 2020, 04:01:54 PM »

Hi Greg.


Have just cleaned my glasses but unfortunately it's all still there, the specks are really tiny, so don't show in the pictures, maybe I need one of those Macro lenses but my little cheap and cheerful camera hasn't got that facility.  :(( :(( .


Thanks for your kind words tho' much appreciated.


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