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Re: A Greek BIREME
« Reply #175 on: August 23, 2017, 10:11:11 am »

G/day Ken they say third time lucky or is it the fourth.


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« Reply #176 on: August 23, 2017, 10:18:10 am »


We never end  (when it comes to model boats).

It did surprise me that I forgotten I'd built that many.  My life is a speedy blur these days.

A nice quiet day today planking away quietly with the radio on and numerous cups of tea being transported in now and again.  It's like an old factory when everyone has gone home.  Oooh the plans going though my head as I work away silently.

More later.

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« Reply #177 on: August 28, 2017, 08:47:47 pm »

I have finally completed the planking in nice new  'thicker' wood. They are between 2 and 3mm thickness and lay nice and straight. The rough edges were sanded down nice to make a flat hull shape.

The small version has been put back in store.    :}


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A Greek BIREME now a TRIREME
« Reply #178 on: August 28, 2017, 08:55:22 pm »

               Say hello to the TRIREME


Yes, we are going ahead with the  'three layer of Oars'  model.  In for a penny, In for a pound,  as they say.

The completed hull is now being built upwards with another side deck for a top row of Oarsmen.  I need to make some more Oars as they now total 90.

Here is where we are at the moment.  My regulars might note that the Rear curved end has been snapped orf at the giant feather.   oooh er.  but that's life in the modelling game  mmmh!!






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« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2017, 11:07:27 am »

I have added to extra 'top row' and secured it with round posts, which run down through to act as pivots for the oars.

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« Reply #180 on: August 30, 2017, 11:14:27 am »


The oars were then tried for size and lining up.

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« Reply #181 on: August 30, 2017, 11:16:56 am »

So far so good.

We are now going for the Trireme so the extra row of oars was added.  Now we need 30 more oars manufactured to keep up with production.   :}



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« Reply #182 on: August 31, 2017, 07:01:45 pm »

Now that does look nice Ken  :-)) Those galleries with the pilars is a nice touch.

With ninety oars to get set up, when you have mastered that you will probably be able to build anything.
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« Reply #183 on: September 01, 2017, 10:09:31 am »


It sure is turning out to be a labour of love.

I really am enjoying this wood working lark.  Every time I look at it I can see  'updates' needed.   %)

  I feel another day on Oar production coming up.

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« Reply #184 on: September 01, 2017, 11:41:27 am »


They are always a labour of love Ken,   she is OAR inspiring  %) %)


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« Reply #185 on: September 01, 2017, 11:45:49 am »

Shock and Oar! {-) {-) {-) 
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« Reply #186 on: September 01, 2017, 01:06:49 pm »

 {-) {-) {-) Those puns are OAR ful!!!
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« Reply #187 on: September 01, 2017, 01:15:12 pm »


Well the boat is full of oars .  %% {-) {-)   I'll get me coat.  :D

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« Reply #188 on: September 01, 2017, 07:12:22 pm »

Oar inspiring? %)
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« Reply #189 on: September 04, 2017, 08:23:49 pm »


I have made another 30 oars.  The ships full compliment is now 90 oars.

It does sound a bit OARful and hopefully not a problem when it comes to driving them.

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« Reply #190 on: September 04, 2017, 08:28:49 pm »


You will have noticed that the top deck for keeping the rain off of the rowers has been lined up.  It's not secured yet because there is plenty of work below decks to be done.

I have also made the Bow deck but not secured as I want to drop some epoxy inside the hull.  The same applies to the stern deck, which is in the process of being curved to shape.

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« Reply #191 on: September 04, 2017, 08:57:52 pm »

The hull is looking Awesome or even Oarsome Ken,  :-))
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« Reply #192 on: September 04, 2017, 10:11:07 pm »

This is looking great. It will be quite the feat to link all those oars. I look forward to seeing your effort.
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« Reply #193 on: September 04, 2017, 10:17:09 pm »


Thank you for your kind comments, we are indeed deep into this now.   :embarrassed:    Plenty to do.

Cheers

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« Reply #194 on: September 05, 2017, 09:09:39 am »

The bow is very attractive Ken.
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« Reply #195 on: September 05, 2017, 10:20:12 am »

It does seem to look the part now Ian.

Today I shall be playing with  Plasticine.  The plan is to make a model man which will fit the space, and hold the oar. By getting his body shape and arm length etc, to fit the available space I should be able to work out the scale of this model ??

You all have the day to place your bets and see who is closest.   {-) 

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« Reply #196 on: September 05, 2017, 04:32:25 pm »

Hm.

Version 3.0 was about 1:56th scale based on the figure posed aboard. Version 4.0 is larger but has more oars so it is still 1:56th or maybe around 1:48th scale.

The 'Make a job really challenging' part of my brain was thinking you could cast each rower's body in soft rubber with the working parts set into the mould beforehand but having articulated figures will be impressive enough to create. Having a drummer to beat time would be an impressive addition to the working crew  :}
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« Reply #197 on: September 06, 2017, 10:10:44 am »


You're not wrong about the problems. What a day I had ........ {-)

Here are some pictures of my attempts.  (I am not very artistic in the human modelling dept) but you should get the 'gist' by the sizes shown.

First I made the man and was governed by the height allowed by the seat and roof measurements.  He looks a bit chunky but it's the height and size we were after.

Several points jumped out at me, notably the size of the oar handle was a little large and the man was getting smaller as we progressed. we are going to need a pivoting waist and pivoting elbow joints.  I don't think we need legs but I suppose it would look better with them.

I did find a smaller commercial 'soldier' which I re-shaped with the hot air gun, but his features turned out to look too small. 

Here's some pictures.   According to my calculations he would appear to 1/42 scale.

It will be 'mechanism time' soon so buckle up and start your engines  (as they say)  %)



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« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2017, 10:20:48 am »

The real life oars were beasts so they fitted hand rails to them which were more ergonomic. This might help you anyway on providing a natural pivot point between 'Oarville' and his mate's hands and the oars.

Sorry, that last pun was a load of Rollocks  %)
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« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2017, 10:24:55 am »


A great reminder.  Yes, there was a metal loop coming out of the wood for the rowers to grip.

Just 30 of these to modify mmmh!  We don't have rowers under the decks.    %)

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