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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #200 on: January 16, 2018, 04:08:08 PM »

Oh - why the change of heart? I thought Mady Jeanne was a handsome shape, and your build was a pleasure to watch.  It's a shame she won't get finished -  :(( :(( - but I am sure the next build will be even better!  :} :}   Looking forward to it.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #201 on: January 16, 2018, 07:27:08 PM »

Oh - why the change of heart? I thought Mady Jeanne was a handsome shape, and your build was a pleasure to watch.  It's a shame she won't get finished -  :(( :(( - but I am sure the next build will be even better!  :} :}   Looking forward to it.

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On the pictures it looks handsome but if I look at it .... mistakes mistakes and more mistakes .... shapes I do not like at all. I put it in storage and maybe one day I may finish it .... I will keep the name and the look of the wheelhouse. Just a better and nicer hull we be built!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #202 on: January 16, 2018, 08:08:25 PM »

Fair enough. We are all our own worse critics and you wil always feel she is not all right and that would mar your enjoyment in the long term, so starting again is a fresh slate and you can incorporate all your experiences with Hull #1 into the new work.

I'm looking forward to seeing your new work already!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #203 on: January 16, 2018, 08:10:03 PM »

Just the words I were searching for Ian
Best wishes Danielle  :-))  Love your work.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #204 on: January 16, 2018, 09:33:33 PM »

Hi Danielle, looks to be a tubby hull and a big wheelhouse, sorry but not as attractive as Mady Jeanne, my thoughts only !!!!


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PS. What about a side by side build???  You have taken Mady this far
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #205 on: January 17, 2018, 07:36:45 AM »

The hull is a little more beefy but looking at the frames its huge and spacy .... the frame in the middle has a width of 48cm and is 32cm high!!!
It has been drawn and built from a experienced model ship builder and he made a award winning model out of it!
Give me some time to get things started .....  ok2
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #206 on: January 17, 2018, 04:52:41 PM »

Wow, that is going to be Heavy. Have you thought about making the Hull free Flooding to save on weight.

Love your builds.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #207 on: January 17, 2018, 07:40:14 PM »

Today I started with the drawings!!!! Original lenght is 13.5m and in 1/10 scale its 135cm!!! HUGE!!!!  :}



.... end of the day I had the keel drawn on paper .... tomorrow I can cut the first oak profiles.
New keel and "old hull keel" ... massive! It will create some transport problems but I couldn't resist ... such a big scale leaves the door open for excellent details which will be big and can be made using brass, iron, steel, copper .... etc etc

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #208 on: January 17, 2018, 09:43:57 PM »

Crikey, you are zooming along already! There was definitly an elegance about the constructio of Mady Jean #1 regarding joints etc, and hope you get as much enjoyment from the initial build of #2. The first, while having issues you identified, the structure was a work of art and redolent of BB's carpentary. This one should be as interesting now you mention Oak!!!!!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #209 on: January 17, 2018, 11:01:27 PM »

now you mention Oak........

from memory, the stem & stern posts & keel plate of the original Mady build were also of Oak  O0..............

Danielle......I am concerned with the final displacement <*<  and how it will be handled?..........

Here is an image to a 1983 build of model Galaxie ...LS331146................

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #210 on: January 18, 2018, 04:24:59 AM »

Thanks a lot!  :-))
As said before .... the old hull goes into storage and can be turned into a fine model later!
Well with the plan from the MRB Magazine I also bought copies of the original two articles in the MRB magazine of 1983!
I hope you can understand why I redo the hull. I learned a lot from my mistakes with the first hull and the new one will be made exactly the same way but without all the mistakes resulting from using this f@#@d up Delftship plan!!!!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #211 on: January 18, 2018, 06:28:28 AM »

Well Danielle......2018 will the year and rebirth of another magnificent wooden planked hull......

I am sure reading the 2 articles on the 1983 build would have been interesting ;)

Many will be watching on in support

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #212 on: January 18, 2018, 07:02:06 AM »

Wow... although I'm a bit sad to see your wonderful model going to starage, I'm looking forward to spy in on your new project as well.
Keep up the grat work. It's paramount to have fun with what you do  :-))
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #213 on: January 18, 2018, 04:21:57 PM »

Thanks a lot you two ....  :-)) :-))
Funny to start another hull in such a short time. I will build it more accurate than before. I will draw the frames one after another just like they do in real life.

Prop is a 80mm one .... plan says 75mm .... never mind. Nobody will notice the difference.



This removeable part is important. If I have to dismantle the rudder it will be much easier.





Here I add the second oak profile (30x15mm) that goes to the bow ....



.... glueing the part together. This time I will use M3 treaded rod and hex nut to reinforce the seam.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #214 on: January 18, 2018, 08:44:21 PM »

That's a lovely bit of scarfeing there Danielle  :-)) I can smell the sawdust  :}
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #215 on: January 18, 2018, 09:10:53 PM »

Danielle....

Just wondering.....is the plan not 1:15?.....so if propeller size is 75, at 1:20...the new sizing is 99.75....or 100..... this may explain why your 80 diameter propeller looks too high above the stern skeg ?????

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #216 on: January 19, 2018, 04:23:25 AM »

Plan is 1/15 with a 50mm prop ... so in 1/10 must be 75mm prop .... or do I slept during the mathematics in school??? %)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #217 on: January 19, 2018, 04:48:50 AM »

Ahah........when you said plan = 75, I had not realised you were clearly awake during mathematics @ school  {-)

It is just that the 75 diameter prop ['welle = shaft'] looks to be on high axis  <*< as you have shown thus the propeller sits high off the stern post skeg...............

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #218 on: January 19, 2018, 05:52:11 PM »

Propshaft is exactly where it should be ...



... anyway ... I used another method to get the keel and bowupright together ....



The bow assembly ready to be glued together.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne Mark II"
« Reply #219 on: January 20, 2018, 01:16:29 AM »


I think you made the right choice as the plan indicates a fine looking subject, as they say go get em. :-)) :-))

The only one who will know of any slipups is yourself so don't tell O0 O0

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« Reply #220 on: January 20, 2018, 02:42:24 AM »

OK......

1. I understand the 'welle' [propeller shaft] is in the correct position as drawn
2. I accept that the plan @ 1:15 nominates a propeller of 50 diameter

Plans can be drawn by people who do not necessarily understand

3. The French Vessel Registration of LS 331146  was Galaxie, however the Registration number carried over to the name La Madorea
4. In 1976, La Madorea is listed as 12.88M and  24.19 tonnes...no images of her propeller are shown in the WEB site
5. In 1977, Ker Leguer from the same WEB site  similar vessel is listed as 11.94M and 23.56 tonnes....a number of images of rudder and propeller are shown on the same WEB site ....I will post this note then attach the WEB site which is worth viewing  %)

So I am not talking about the Nozzle Ring being installed on the Ker Leguer, just the relative size of her propeller

Derek

http://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/spip.php?article177
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #221 on: January 20, 2018, 04:35:36 AM »

Thanks a lot for the link and informations .... there is enough room for a bigger propeller should it be neccesary.  ok2
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #222 on: January 20, 2018, 05:52:21 PM »

I was never happy with drilling the 8mm dia. hole for the propshaft. So I decided to try a new method this time. I milled the opening into the keel section. Then I will glue in the propshaftassembly, before I will glue the parts together. This way the shaft will be 100% square ....
Milling the keel section...



How it looks after milling.



.... and how it will look after the parts will be glued together ... the propshaft needs a small tube to get some grease into it without taking everything apart.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #223 on: January 20, 2018, 05:58:03 PM »

NICE. Alternative thinking. Such a long drilling could have been a disaster, well thought through


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #224 on: January 20, 2018, 07:37:04 PM »

Lovely - just lovely after a very brave decision to start again  :-)   A fantastic solution for the prop shaft and all of that oak too.  Keep the updates coming Danielle  :-))
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