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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #250 on: January 31, 2018, 10:12:34 PM »

Amen to that.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #251 on: February 01, 2018, 01:01:09 PM »

My, that thing looks huge gigantic titanic!  :}
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #252 on: February 01, 2018, 03:23:02 PM »

Thx a lot my friends!!! Its the biggest model I built sofar .... but bigger is always better!!!!  ok2

Today I made frames 7-9 .... all frames from the original plan are finished .... but there are still 27 frames that have to be made ....



And some pics from the whole thing .... I like it a lot and the bow will look as I wanted it.





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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #253 on: February 02, 2018, 10:44:02 AM »

Today i made some cardbord strips to simulate the planks. So I can check the shape of the hull. I could have used wooden profiles but I think cardboard does the job better. Frame C2 (the one with the screws in) was still not ok ... so I took it out and glued it in again but another 10mm lower .... surprize!!!! It fits 100%!!!!!
There is still frame C5 which sits too low on the keel. I will take it out later and glue it in again only some 3mm higher. After that the hull is PERFEKTLY in shape!!!



Wow .... this hull is such a beauty!!!! Short and stubby!!! Just like all the ones I had seen in Brittany....10-14m long







The skipper watched to many times Titanic blockbuster .... {-)





I never thought that the 1st hull could be parked inside the new one!!!! :}

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2018, 10:27:25 PM »

The curve of the planks into the stem post is attractive Danielle. I am pleased this one is being more biddable for you!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #255 on: February 03, 2018, 07:54:59 PM »

Thx a lot!!!!  :-)) :-)) :-))

Today after finishing some corrections I took the hull off its workbase and took it up to my flat. Weight must be around 2kg. My wife then had a good look at it about the different shapes. She suggested some changes and I must say she has a perfect eye for it. Next week I'll do the corrections and the off I go with the remaing 27 frames.


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #256 on: February 03, 2018, 08:13:39 PM »

Superb  :-)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #257 on: February 04, 2018, 01:15:22 AM »

Huge  :}

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #258 on: February 05, 2018, 06:13:15 PM »

Thank you very much!!!  ok2

Today I started building the remaing 27 frames ....
But first I took a rubberband to mark the middle of the hull (suggestion of my wide). So I have another point where I can check the measurements. I also made some space for the ruddershaft.



I copied frame C1 on a cheap plywood and the with sawing and milling I got the shape of the next smaller frame done. Copied it on paper and photopaper and with it I can made the next frame out of the expensive plywood.



With the help of photopaperstencil I made the next frame ....



Here it is ready to be glued in but much too long ... next one is ready to be copied ....



The result of todays work ....



Close-up of todays work ....

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #259 on: February 05, 2018, 07:58:44 PM »

Successful hull frames-happy Danielle!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #260 on: February 06, 2018, 04:08:39 PM »

 :-)) :} :} :}

It went much better today ... its the long training hours that gets me faster and faster in building all these frames that nobody will ever see!!!!  ok2



I could use all these temporary frames as waterthight bulkwards ....  %)



3 Frames per day .... drawing them and cutting/glueing the plywood is the max I can do per day ..... !



All used stencils are in storage at the bow ....



I must say that building such a big model is really a pleasure! I never regretted building it upright like in real life and not upside down. Which would be impossible regarding all the woodwork that is involved to get these frame straight in! I also think making first the 10 frames from the original plan, then usung cardboard planks to check the shape and help me with building the remaining frames was a clever idea (they do the same in real life). Important is that the keel sits 100% on its base.... which it does perfectly without moving to any direction.From now on I will build all my models using this method.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #261 on: February 08, 2018, 03:09:04 PM »

Here some pics of the last two days ......



Can't wait to start putting some planks on .... what size would you make? 15x5mm or 13x5mm? I have some 10x3mm leftover from the Loredana but they are too small. I must say that I have no idea which size they are in real life ..... thickness of 5mm would be 50mm in real life. Seems ok to me.



At the end of the day it looks like this ....



Picture taken from the bow .... black line in the middle is the rubber thread.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #262 on: February 08, 2018, 08:15:13 PM »

Given her size, a thicker plank is feasable. But then you can steam or heat bend a thicker plank anyway, so have an experiment before committing to a dimention.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #263 on: February 08, 2018, 09:01:55 PM »

Daanielle.......you current Mady Jeanne is scaled at 1:15?

So a 15 height scale hull plank = 15 x 15 [scale]  = 225 mm hull height in full size  :o

The example similar tonnage traditional wooden planked trawlers I see here have hull planking of approximately 100 mm hull height
Many Australian trawlers were built for Italian fishing families and of European design and build

So 100 divided by 15  [the scale] = just less than 7 mm hull high

May be best to do some further research prior to your planking decision

Derek

[PS...the whiteout is not a glitch, just a white painted wooden planked bow]

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #264 on: February 08, 2018, 10:28:25 PM »

Danielle.....here is an Australian 1:16 scale trawler......it and other builds by BB may be of interest.............. Derek

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,56643.msg590065.html#msg590065
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #265 on: February 09, 2018, 05:30:33 AM »

Thanks a lot Derek for the link. Yesterday evening I studied all posting from B.B .... I just love his woodwork!
I think I will go for the selfcut 13mm planks .... the suggested 7mm in 1/15 (the new hull of the Mady-Jeanne is 1/10) 10mm in 1/10 are too small to accomodate the 2 nails ....

Here two pics of a similar trawler ..... the smaller planks must be 100mm (10mm on model) and the lower ones around 130mm (13mm in 1/10 scale)....
If I go for 10 & 13mm wide planks .... what do you think?



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #266 on: February 09, 2018, 04:32:46 PM »

Frame #C4 went to paradise .... shape wasn't ok and so I made a new one .... took me just e few minutes ....





I also glued 3 subframes in .... C4A, C5A and C6A .....
Numbers of the frames are as follows .... AR1 (stern) AR2, AR3, AR4, C1, C1A, C1B, C1C, C2, C2A-C, C3- C3A-C .... and so on .... it end with C9C at the bow ....



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #267 on: February 09, 2018, 10:30:57 PM »

Yes, BB's work is exquisite! I would happliy own an unplanked hull of his just to admire the frames and quality carpentary  O0 O0

I am enjoying the sight of those frames with the return as they meet the keel, very anatomical (for a whale type skeleton not a Hooman of course!)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #268 on: February 10, 2018, 10:48:15 AM »

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #269 on: February 10, 2018, 05:21:03 PM »

Merci beaucoup pour les fotos!!!! J'ai visité 3x la Bretagne en 2017. J'ai fais bien plus de 500 foto de chalutiers.
Thank you very much for the pictures. I visited Brittany 3 times in 2017. I made more than 500 pics from trawlers.

Yes it would be nice to make a model where you see all the woodwork. It must be bigger ... say 1/5 scale and 1/2 planked and paint and the other half open so that you could see the frames and internals .... Engine, fish storage, crew compartment .... etc etc .... but it must be big in scale or all the details will be difficult to make ....


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #270 on: February 10, 2018, 09:53:45 PM »

I reckon 1:12th would be good if only because you can get some of the personal items and perhaps fish from Dolls house sources.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #271 on: February 12, 2018, 04:53:29 PM »

Yes you're right! I wonder where I can get fish in 1/10 scale .... a few which I would copy .... I also need some good drawing and measurements of these plastic fishboxes used in France (and the UK?).



I used sunday to copy 6 frames to the plywood .... I used 1.5m2 sofar .... have one sheet left. Hope I do not have to order more ....
And my frames look like that befor glueing them together.



Ok I did make 5 of them today .... there was no time left for the 6st one as my Proxxon Bandsaw broke 2 of these expensive bands I I do not now why. It also makes funny grinding noises .... I think it my have a problem with the upper wheel ....



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #273 on: February 12, 2018, 08:23:42 PM »

Thanks a lot for the link!  :-))
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
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