Model Boat Mayhem - Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length.
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 [19] 20   Go Down

Author Topic: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"  (Read 55009 times)

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #450 on: August 27, 2018, 04:33:56 AM »

Ingots are very nice to work with. All the same size and all weight about 2.025kgs each....
The little Krick motor is small ... I used the same motor/prop combo for the N. Loredana. They work well for the Loredana. So I tought I give it a try. Its a very powerful motor that is used for heavy truck models.....
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #451 on: August 28, 2018, 08:39:05 PM »

Today I made the trays where I can put the ignots to stay at their place.





The big tray will also be the base for the big batteries. They will be mounted on the piece of plywood and I will make it so that I can change the position of the batteries easely.



Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #452 on: September 03, 2018, 07:21:58 PM »

I finished the ballast boxes and screwed them in place in the hull....
I also received my 2pcs of 12V15Ah batteries. So I will place them on a piece of plywood (boxlike) on top of the big ballastbox.



Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

RST

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 209
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: UK
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #453 on: September 03, 2018, 11:58:33 PM »

Afraid I have to comment on the motor choice also.  The build is very superb indeed, but every sight of the small-although geared motor so far leaves me wondering.  I can not see it working at all moving this size of hull, least not without some fantastic current draw.  This is such a great build but I think the motor is very much under-sized.  It looks like a 2hp engine fitted in the real boat which I don't think would go far.  I will take my hat-off if it works, but it looks fantastically under powered and over-propped so far.  It would be such a shame to have to change motors later.  I may be wrong and happy to be proved otherwise.  Rich
Logged

Ianlind

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 190
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Quirindi, New South Wales, Australia
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #454 on: September 04, 2018, 02:39:33 AM »

I tend to agree with Rich, as I also feel the motor is way too small to do the job on this large hull.
Ian.
Logged

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #455 on: September 04, 2018, 04:23:24 AM »

I know the motor might by a problem .... but its one of the most powerful combinations my hobbyshop had. And it worked well for the N. Loredana which is half the weight but has the same 80mm prop.I am happy to get informations about better suited motors with a 1:6 reduction. I will not use direct power in any way ....
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

Ianlind

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 190
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Quirindi, New South Wales, Australia
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #456 on: September 04, 2018, 06:48:22 AM »

We used to always use the formula of the motor being around the same diameter as the prop for direct drive.
The attached image is of the drive in my tug, Iron Cove, which is 1.5m long. The motor is a Ford heater fan motor driving a 150mm 4 blade prop with a reduction of around 3:1.
Runs all day on a large car battery, with plenty left over.
[size=78%]Ian[/size]
Logged

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #457 on: September 04, 2018, 05:16:48 PM »

OK....lets see if my model will run with the small motor or if I have to upgrade to a bigger one .... I like my combo because I can use all the power from 0-100%! Normally 100% means your model is going like a raceboat. No with my combo the prop turns just over 2500rpms. Thats enough to get the model going.
Some quick work and grey color to get the hull waterproof. Lighter color is an effect of my lamp I have downstairs.



There is a nice wooden look (it a wooden hull so it can look wooden). Not the usual shiny a plastic one most models have.



Just before I finished my work .... the hull slipped from my low working table and bumm on the concrete floor .... no damage done. Just some color was missing. I repaired it in 2-3mins.
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

jarvo

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 681
  • Etherow model boat club
  • Location: Bredbury Stockport Cheshire
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #458 on: September 04, 2018, 10:08:29 PM »

The hull is not damaged, but what about the floor????? 
Logged
Tugs are for pulling

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #459 on: September 05, 2018, 04:17:28 AM »

The concrete floor is undamaged....  ok2
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

ballastanksian

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,400
  • Model Boat Mayhem inspires me!
  • Location: Crewkerne
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #460 on: September 05, 2018, 07:05:58 PM »

Looking good Danielle  :-)) 
Logged
Pond weed is your enemy

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #461 on: September 20, 2018, 05:16:43 PM »

After finishing with the primer I decided to mark the waterline .... not much freeboard left but I will make the deck some 10-15mm hinger than planned.
Now I can put er into the bathtub the second time and I hope I have enough ballast to keep her level in the water.



This pen did not work well .....



I redid everything with a waterproof Edding ....

Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

jarvo

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 681
  • Etherow model boat club
  • Location: Bredbury Stockport Cheshire
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #462 on: September 20, 2018, 05:53:13 PM »

When you ballast down for the water line, sprinkle a little talcum powder on the water, it will stick to the hull and give you an accurate waterline
Logged
Tugs are for pulling

derekwarner_decoy

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,651
  • Location: Wollongong Australia
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #463 on: September 20, 2018, 10:18:19 PM »

You could also consider Float-a-Coat  :o ... as the name suggests, it is a non water soluble oil based paint....[usually black]....

Just fill the bath 2/3 full with standard cold tap water .......place the vessel in the bath & ballast her to the intended waterline......without too much splashing.........add a few gallons of Float-a-Coat

Gently & squarely lift the vessel from the water & the black Float-a-Coat will leave a perfectly level waterline & also represent the black antifouling over the entire under surface of the hull :-X

Perfect job well done....not sure who will clean the bath though  {-)

Derek

PS.....Float-a-Coat is now also available in a TBTO  [Tributyltinoxide] formulation which is has excellent cacogenic properties to minimise weed & mollusc growth  on underwater hull surfaces O0
Logged
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #464 on: September 21, 2018, 03:17:07 AM »

When you ballast down for the water line, sprinkle a little talcum powder on the water, it will stick to the hull and give you an accurate waterline
Very good idea! I'll try thta if I build a model where the waterline is not clear like this time ....
Quote
You could also consider Float-a-Coat  :o ... as the name suggests, it is a non water soluble oil based paint....[usually black]....
Just fill the bath 2/3 full with standard cold tap water .......place the vessel in the bath & ballast her to the intended waterline......without too much splashing.........add a few gallons of Float-a-Coat
Gently & squarely lift the vessel from the water & the black Float-a-Coat will leave a perfectly level waterline & also represent the black antifouling over the entire under surface of the hull :-X
Perfect job well done....not sure who will clean the bath though  {-)
Derek
PS.....Float-a-Coat is now also available in a TBTO  [Tributyltinoxide] formulation which is has excellent cacogenic properties to minimise weed & mollusc growth  on underwater hull surfaces O0
Good one!!!!  {-) {-) {-) {-) I'll do that if you are here in Switzerland and clean the bathtub afterwards!!!!
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

Tafelspitz

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 337
  • Model Boat Bedlam
  • Location: Basel, Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #465 on: September 21, 2018, 06:22:22 AM »

As for cleaning your tub, I highly recommend this detergent. There's practically nothing it won't remove. Tested and trusted.
Logged
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.  Carl Sagan

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #466 on: September 22, 2018, 07:55:58 PM »

 :-)) :-))
The bathtub is too small!!!


40kg Ballast ... 32kg Lead ignots and 8kg Batteries

1cm left in the back....



4cm in the front .... Waterline is OK as it is ... I will correct it.



Left 18kg lead, 20kg lead & batteriesin the middle and 2kg leadto the right.





Looks nice ....



Looks even nicer!


Wheelhouse will go some 5-10cm to the front .... PERFECT.



I packes all the lead ignots into foil. So I can handle it without any risk.


Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

derekwarner_decoy

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,651
  • Location: Wollongong Australia
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #467 on: September 22, 2018, 09:30:41 PM »

Increase the water level by 100 mm [just lapping the top edges of the bath :o] & she will free float on her lines  :-))

Its either that or get a bigger pond  :-X
Logged
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #468 on: September 26, 2018, 07:06:45 PM »

Increase the water level by 100 mm [just lapping the top edges of the bath :o ] & she will free float on her lines  :-))

Its either that or get a bigger pond  :-X
She was floating free .... 20mm at the front and 100mm at the back ....
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #469 on: September 26, 2018, 07:12:05 PM »

I did some changes on my working base to get the waterline level....



Now I have to go back down into my working space ....
Next I will build the bildge keel. The long smaller ones are normal. The higher and shorter ones are to keep the boat upright when the tide is low ... the ship will sit on them like a base of a model. I took the pics at a famous werft in Douarnenez in Brittany when I visited it during my holidays.



Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #470 on: October 02, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »

Still no idea how these ailerons on the hull are called....I designed everything directly on the hull. I may put them some 10-20mm more up to the side of the hull.



.... and in no time they are done. In cardboard .... can use them as template!



As shown before the short ones are need to keep the boat upright. And it saves me to bring a stand with me.



Everything will be built to the highest standard ... I mean they have to be very well made or they will brake the first day on the lake ....
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

ballastanksian

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 5,400
  • Model Boat Mayhem inspires me!
  • Location: Crewkerne
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #471 on: October 02, 2018, 08:52:13 PM »

They are Bilge keels I think. Would they also act as supports for dry docking in most situations?
Logged
Pond weed is your enemy

derekwarner_decoy

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7,651
  • Location: Wollongong Australia
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #472 on: October 02, 2018, 11:30:29 PM »

Danielle......the images of the steel Bilge Keel arrangements on the full sized vessel [26th September] clearly show the hull is supported on the main keel longitudinal plate


If yo intend to support your hull on the pair of lower bilge keel edges, you would necessarily require each keel attachment edge to support the total weight of your model as a consequence of the model lowering onto one keel attachment only


Derek
Logged
Derek Warner

Honorary Secretary [Retired]
Illawarra Live Steamers Co-op
Australia
www.ils.org.au

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #473 on: October 03, 2018, 04:30:52 AM »

The keel will support most of the weight ....
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/

missyd

  • Full Mayhemer
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 875
  • Model Boat Mayhem is Great!
  • Location: Switzerland
Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #474 on: October 06, 2018, 05:04:28 PM »

Ok my friends ... I wont make the built-in boatstand .... too risky.
I made the first bilge keel ... I used 0.49mm tinplate ... I just love this material!!!Doubled everything up to make it sturdy.

In the pic you can see from top to bottom.Cardboard template.Cutout tinplate sectionCutout tinplate section with tape on it to mark the outline.



I used this tools today .... not in the pcture my Proxxon bandsaw.



The result of todays work.





I will soldier a lot of brackets to the bildge keel. I want to screw it to the hull.Tinplate is a very nice material to work with. I can understand why they made all kind of toys out of it.
Logged
Cheers
Danielle

All lost pictures of the N. Loredana ---> visit the following link:
https://nuovaloredana.imgur.com/all/
All pictures can be found on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/fvcorneliamarie
https://www.facebook.com/MpNuovaLoredana/
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 [19] 20   Go Up